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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 7:21 am 
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 8:20 am 
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Andrew Salmons wrote:

I am furious! So the province allows Milton to grow, to point where it's the fastest growing community consistently for 10 years, yet they're constantly dropping the ball. The make an announcement and the then retreat from it. Are we not going to get a highway expansion too? Is all day GO train service not coming either? I think we should stop expanding and allowing more people to move to a community where there isn't enough jobs to support the demographic of people moving here. Not having a hospital big enough to support the existing and future population is dangerous and morally wrong. It puts the community at risk in my opinion.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 8:58 am 
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Thanks for the post and comments Andrew and others. I share the same position. The Region is holding a public meeting this afternoon regarding the new development charges by-law where there is requests to reduce DC's and road construction for the area by builders, where I will be raising these concerns.

Councillor Lambert, the Mayor and I raised the same concerns Monday night at the Milton Administration & Planning committee that the Province is turning its back on Milton even after approving the new Regional and Town Official Plan's last December for Milton to grow to 238,000 residents by the year 2031.

If the province cannot afford to build hospitals to serve existing and growing communities, how can it build schools and transportation networks to keep up with the growth as well considering the huge amount of tax dollars coming from this area in terms of sales, gas, registration and other taxes and licences for not only new construction but also expanding employment areas.

You can email or call our local MPP Ted Chudleigh and Oakville MPP Kevin Flynn who is the only government member from Halton with your comments and concerns on this and other issues.

Colin Best
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 9:05 am 
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Maybe McGuinty plans to provide Milton Hospital with portables for the overflow - like he is doing now with schools.

Oops! Can't do that. The portables will all be needed for Junior Kindergarten.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 9:25 am 
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Andrew Salmons wrote:
From today's Globe and Mail: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/pol ... le2376005/

"Multiple sources have confirmed that the cuts to funding for previously announced hospital projects will be part of a broader scale-back of infrastructure spending that Finance Minister Dwight Duncan hinted at last week."

"Hospital developments for which shovels are already in the ground will be spared. But the lengthy list of commitments still in the planning stage – which includes a new hospital in Vaughan, a tripling of the size of the hospital in the fast-growing city of Milton, major additions to the Mount Sinai and St. Michael’s hospitals in downtown Toronto, and a redevelopment of the general hospital in Brockville – will be subject to the belt-tightening."


I am furious! So the province allows Milton to grow, to point where it's the fastest growing community consistently for 10 years, yet they're constantly dropping the ball. The make an announcement and the then retreat from it. Are we not going to get a highway expansion too? Is all day GO train service not coming either? I think we should stop expanding and allowing more people to move to a community where there isn't enough jobs to support the demographic of people moving here. Not having a hospital big enough to support the existing and future population is dangerous and morally wrong. It puts the community at risk in my opinion.
Andrew Salmons wrote:
From today's Globe and Mail: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/pol ... le2376005/

"Multiple sources have confirmed that the cuts to funding for previously announced hospital projects will be part of a broader scale-back of infrastructure spending that Finance Minister Dwight Duncan hinted at last week."

"Hospital developments for which shovels are already in the ground will be spared. But the lengthy list of commitments still in the planning stage – which includes a new hospital in Vaughan, a tripling of the size of the hospital in the fast-growing city of Milton, major additions to the Mount Sinai and St. Michael’s hospitals in downtown Toronto, and a redevelopment of the general hospital in Brockville – will be subject to the belt-tightening."


I am furious! So the province allows Milton to grow, to point where it's the fastest growing community consistently for 10 years, yet they're constantly dropping the ball. The make an announcement and the then retreat from it. Are we not going to get a highway expansion too? Is all day GO train service not coming either? I think we should stop expanding and allowing more people to move to a community where there isn't enough jobs to support the demographic of people moving here. Not having a hospital big enough to support the existing and future population is dangerous and morally wrong. It puts the community at risk in my opinion.


It's the megalomaniac attitude that everything big is better and you can't stop progress, well guess what, nothing is forever when politicians use smoke and mirrors(today IT) to plan ahead.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 9:53 am 
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colin b. wrote:
Thanks for the post and comments Andrew and others. I share the same position. The Region is holding a public meeting this afternoon regarding the new development charges by-law where there is requests to reduce DC's and road construction for the area by builders, where I will be raising these concerns.

Councillor Lambert, the Mayor and I raised the same concerns Monday night at the Milton Administration & Planning committee that the Province is turning its back on Milton even after approving the new Regional and Town Official Plan's last December for Milton to grow to 238,000 residents by the year 2031.

If the province cannot afford to build hospitals to serve existing and growing communities, how can it build schools and transportation networks to keep up with the growth as well considering the huge amount of tax dollars coming from this area in terms of sales, gas, registration and other taxes and licences for not only new construction but also expanding employment areas.

You can email or call our local MPP Ted Chudleigh and Oakville MPP Kevin Flynn who is the only government member from Halton with your comments and concerns on this and other issues.

Colin Best
Local & regional councillor
Wards 2,3,45, North of Derry road.
Milton/Halton


Colin, do you have contact information for Kevin Flynn?
Milton hospital expansion should take much higher priority than the other announcement for piloting birthing centers that was also announced yesterday. Deeply disappointed in the government's about-face on this matter as well as concern regarding the impact of other potential budget cutbacks that directly impact Milton and Halton. Very good discussion Monday night on these issues!


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 10:08 am 
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Would the announcement have been different if the Liberal candidate had won the election? Alas, we will never know.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 10:14 am 
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Ughhh I guess we should know better by now, but yet again McGuinty lies through his teeth to win votes. So frustrating how it seems every provincial election now there isn't much point in listening to what is promised as it is just thrown in the trash. And they wonder why voter turnouts in elections are so low these days. The G&M article doesn't specifically mention it, but I'm sure this will also affect the Burlington hospital expansion, so now Halton gets 1 out of 3 new hospitals or expansions that are needed. The new Oakville hospital will be stuffed from the day it opens. Maybe someone should look at if the old Oakville hospital could be kept open longer rather than closing upon the new one opening, such that the new hospital can handle the overflow from Milton and Burlington.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 10:57 am 
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Hello everyone. Here is the contact information for both MPP's

http://www.chudleighmpp.com/

http://www.kevinflynn.onmpp.ca/mContact

btimmis, the existing Oakville hospital is to be sold to assist with the funding of the new hospital which is only being built to serve the existing Oakville population plus the 50,000 new residents moving in north of Dundas St. over the next five years.

http://www.insidehalton.com/news/articl ... otmh-lands

Will be posting more on this issue when we hear details from the provincial budget announcements next week.

Colin Best
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Milton/Halton

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 12:11 pm 
Hmmmm, politicians talking smack to win your vote??!! Crazy!! :roll:


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Oh wow, look that slime bag lied again. What a surprise. I'm so shocked.

One more reason why anyone who voted for this guy is an utter moron. He bribed you with your own cash for 8 years when times were good, racking up deficit after deficit. Now things are tough, and the province is drowning due to his overspending, so we get hosed on important projects.

Had he kept spending where Mike Harris had left it, we would have no deficit today. Our debt would be half what it is. And we would be able to afford this expansion.

Instead, we have way higher taxes AND annual defiticts, which bought what?

And now people in this town are going to die waiting for care in a hospital that's far to small to service the community it serves.

Thanks again Liberal voters! I hope not having any strikes for 8 years from our over-bloated unions was worth it, cause thats where your money went.

I can't wait to see what dammage this clown will do in the next 4 years.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 1:25 pm 
Bremer, I'm hoping with all the new info that has come to light since the election (e.g. Drummond report, Ornge fiasco, etc) that the minority liberals will get defeated in a non-confidence vote and we go back to the polls. I think we'll see a better Hudak this time...he's already now stated he will not support all day kindergarden.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 2:31 pm 
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KGC wrote:
Would the announcement have been different if the Liberal candidate had won the election? Alas, we will never know.


I don't think so. The province is in terrible shape financially.

Hopefully enough people in Ontario vote in a Conservative Government next time.


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Hopefully the town does not increase taxes!

The money is better spent on a Velodome! :)


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