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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 12:39 pm 
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Rear lane homes are the ones with a driveway in the back to a detached garage, right? They have them in oakville, my friend lives in one.

I agree though. I have no idea how a new couple starting out with average jobs ($45-$55K a year jobs) can afford a home. They have to go town home or condo and build up over time, but even then, towns are at $400K in Milton....


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http://www.realtor.ca/PropertyDetails.a ... -783018929

These are the rear-lane homes. A bunch of Mattamy communites have them.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 12:46 pm 
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JLB wrote:
http://www.realtor.ca/PropertyDetails.aspx?&PropertyId=12505322&PidKey=-783018929

These are the rear-lane homes. A bunch of Mattamy communites have them.

Fair enough, I had not noticed these before, I thought rear lane homes were only common in western Canada.


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I've said it before, I'll say it again: With a mantle that big, where the heck do you put a tv in that room?

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martin prince wrote:
I've said it before, I'll say it again: With a mantle that big, where the heck do you put a tv in that room?

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we have ours over the fireplace.


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RichardTNC wrote:
we have ours over the fireplace.


As do most these days. But when you have a 4.5 to 5 foot mantle and a room that is 10 or 11 feet deep. It's not exactly a comfortable viewing experience.

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youre obviously used to looking down to watch tv. that strains my neck. so it comes down to personal preference.


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RichardTNC wrote:
youre obviously used to looking down to watch tv. that strains my neck. so it comes down to personal preference.


Looking down? No. Mine too is above the fireplace. But at least I'm lucky enough in that the TV faces the big sofa, instead of the love seat, and that very sofa is against a wall instead of cutting the entrance of the room off. I got lucky with the design of my house.

The ideal is to look forward; not down; not up.

Just go on MLS have have a look at many of the weird configurations people have to set up to watch tv in their new "modern" home. It makes no sense to me. The builders have not caught on to how we live in 2012 yet. We have 50 inch tvs that hang on the wall. This is a fact. Design the homes to accommodate this fact.

In that picture, by the time you put the tv over the fireplace assuming about 50 inches or so, you're looking 7 feet in the air to watch tv.

Where do you put the cable box? Blu Ray? Maybe an Xbox?

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 2:30 pm 
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martin prince wrote:
RichardTNC wrote:
youre obviously used to looking down to watch tv. that strains my neck. so it comes down to personal preference.


Where do you put the cable box? Blu Ray? Maybe an Xbox?


Wire everything down to your basement. Have a wall panel with AV keystones (http://www.monoprice.com/products/subde ... p_id=10426)

Wire up a separate rear panel for rear/side/sub audio.

I did this out of fear of my newborn cracking his head on the hard, sharp edge of a modern on-the-floor TV stand. Got a wallmount from monoprice and went to work.


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My basement is already finished. I did something similar to what you said downstairs. Where the fireplace rough in was, I framed in a recessed, eye level tv niche with 2 recessed shelves above it for components.

Puts the tv at a natural height and allows for cable box, xbox, blu ray, apple tv and soundbar storage, with hidden wires, and no dangerous tv stands to trip over. Saves a lot of space too.

With tv's being as large as they are today, but at the same time compact, room designs should change. We don't need entertainment floor units anymore.

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Buh bye now...


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I have a buddy that bought in that area from a different (but similar sounding builder).. small, willing to make changes to suit. Its great, but you gota live in Grimsby .. pass! I'd also be concerned with value of the home if you want to make the move.

Milton, Oakville, Mississauga. These areas are $ because of access to employment. I chose a random 'Streamside' community and my wife would be driving >1 hr, and myself 50 mins. I'll take 5 & 25 :)

For certain, we are dealing with cookie cutter builders here, and Mattamy is the best of the best (in terms of limiting changes, keeping to their models etc, maximizing houses in small space). Everyone's gotta check off the list of priorities.

Myself its access to escarpment parks, work, proximity to family, activities for us and the kids (ball hockey for the adults, swimming, dance, piano lessons, monkeynastics for the kids). I know one of my neighbours moved to Milton because he was the only family with little kids on the street -- you can't go 10 ft before tripping over a dog, a preggy lady or small kids :)

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I am having a new home built in Niagara region (between Stoney Creek and St. Catherines) by a home builder called Phelps Homes. Excellent builder, excellent product, will accomodate changes at your request, prices are very reasonable for changes, some are no charge at all. They meet with the client regularly and ensure that evertything is moving along nicely. This company started out as a custom home builder but is now building small sub divisions (100 homes at a time). However, they have kept that custom home builder approach when dealing with the "sub-division" home buyers (if you call 60' wide lots "standard"...). Can't say enough, to date about my experience with them. Check them out if you are thinking of moving to the Niagara area.

Oakville is nice, but the average person is nuts to pay the prices they are asking, my opinion only. I have decided not to stay in Milton with the amount of construction that is going to take place over the next 20 years... I live in the Tremmaine and Derry Rd area and the start of the useless "mega dollar dome" was the final straw...


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This Oakville release is situated ~15 minutes from HVOTP in Milton. A quick glance at the prices and models, I would say there is a ~$150k premium over similar 34' homes in the last release in HVOTP. Mind you, the last HVOTP release was 1 year ago but still that is way too much of an increase. I work in Oakville and I definitely would not pay that premium to save myself 12-15 minutes of driving down hwy 25.


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I checked it out around midnight while passing through Oakville last night. A couple tents setup, security but no lineup in sight. All hype I guess. Too pricey.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 9:08 am 
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seamas13 wrote:
I checked it out around midnight while passing through Oakville last night. A couple tents setup, security but no lineup in sight. All hype I guess. Too pricey.


They are doing roll call. The roll call ended at 10pm and will resume next day 9am. That's why you are not seeing any line up at midnight. Only 2 people are staying over night to control the list.


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