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reply from garth...nice ...getting somewhere

Thank you for sending an email to Hon. Garth Turner, P.C., MP for Halton on Wednesday, March 28th and for your subsequent visit to the constituency office.

As per our conversation, Garth has already written to the provincial minister to support the request for an environmental assessment of the TransCanada Energy site, as he understands how important it is to move forward with environmental issues.

Also, as mentioned, you are doing the right thing to follow up with all levels of government on this issue. Please feel free to contact us at any time.

Thank you again for contacting the office of Garth Turner, MP for Halton and allowing us the opportunity to discuss the TransCanada Energy issue.


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data, thanks for your support
with everyone dropping close to 3-500 k for there home in Hawthorne, its a shame that some hick in halton(rick bonnette) and kickbacks puts everyones health and THIER kids health at risk....and for what....?

its a shame really....
fire off emails to every politician who is downwind from the plant..goodluck


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There is a difference between being defeatist and understanding how things work.

There is a lot of talk about kick backs, Halton council using taxpayers money to move development on private land forward etc etc and these make it seem as if there has been some shady deal that we all can band together and fight, but that isn't the case.

Municipalities pay for the bringing of services to sites (water, sewage, roads etc.) they then recover these costs through development charges (these are a per square foot built of commercial / industrial buildings). The city of Halton Hills has decided that it was time to bring more employment lands into use (as they were out of serviced land for employment use) and therefore had to spend some money to bring water and sewers east along Steeles Ave towards Trafalger. TCPL and the other land owners have agreed to pay some of their future development charges in advance to the city to help speed the process up. There is nothing wrong about this, the same thing has happened in Mississauga, Brampton, Guelph, Cambridge, Brantford etc etc.

The facts are that there is going to be a new power plant, and the contract has been awarded by the province to TCPL at that site. Ontario Power Generation is being given powers by the provincial government to over-ride any local or regional opposition if they determine that they need new power generation in an area.

The time to have fought the selection of this site was several years ago (and it was all public knowledge). Now that the contracts are done, what we can all do is get together to make sure that the strictest controls are used to minimize the impact of this plant on the community. This isn't defeatist, its being realistic, and using our time and energy towards an achievable goal rather then spinning our wheels.

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that was then, today people are more intune with the environment and so are the feds...laws are being changed as we speak....


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williamb wrote:
marc
that was then, today people are more intune with the environment and so are the feds...laws are being changed as we speak....


William,

There still is the fact that it is a completed awarded contract. The use fits zoning for that area. What basis is going to be used for the government to break an executed contract?

I predict there will be tons of posturing by the politicians for their public image.... but not much else will happen.

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Dear Mr. Ballone,

Thank you for your email, I will bring it to Councillor George Carlson's attention.

Regards,

Kimberly for
Councillor George Carlson
Ward 11

im getting alot of feedback like the one above...and Oakville is very interested....

Good morning Mr Ballone,

We are aware of this & are looking at the situation very seriously.

Thanks again,

Roger Lapworth.
Ward 4.

and then there is GARTH

Good afternoon William:

Thank you for sending an email to Hon. Garth Turner, P.C., MP for Halton on Wednesday, March 28th and for your subsequent visit to the constituency office.

As per our conversation, Garth has already written to the provincial minister to support the request for an environmental assessment of the TransCanada Energy site, as he understands how important it is to move forward with environmental issues.

Also, as mentioned, you are doing the right thing to follow up with all levels of government on this issue. Please feel free to contact us at any time.


and not to mention HURRICANE HAZEL...WHICH IS FORTH COMING


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I fully support this cause. There SHOULD NOT be any sort of a power plant near Milton. I've always thought of Milton as a retreat from the pollution and smog of downtown Toronto and I think that it should remain that way!!!

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William,

Not that I want to seem negative, but what do form letter responses from politicians mean? I can send almost any query to any level of government and get that kind of response. As far as the environmental study, there are already many that are scheduled for different parts of the TCPL project, so I am not sure what action Garth is referring to, other then trying to get your vote.

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Just a question...what does George Carlson have to do with the power plant in Milton? Isn't he a councillor in Mississauga? Or is this a different councillor? My parents are neighbours with this guy so I know him. Just curious if we're talking about the same guy and how he has influence here. Thanks.


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he is ward 11 mississauga region of peel councillor
and involved with the environment
and mississauga , i think should be concerned as its downwind from the proposed site


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Hello William

Councillor McFadden has asked me to thank you for expressing your concerns to her. Councillor McFadden feels the same way and will do anything she can to express her disapproval.

Regards,
Joanne Wood
Administrative Assistant to Councillor Sue McFadden

Sue McFadden
Councillor Ward 10
City of Mississauga/Region of Peel
(905) 896-5010
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Thanks for keepin us up to date on the fight william.


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Ouch, this is getting serious again.


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Good day again
It is nice to see ongoing debate. Anyway we look at this power plant development, there will be impact. However, the "powers to be" are also aware of the underlying strategies to push these initiatives forward, knowing full well our local community and neighbours most likely to be impacted by this development would object. NIMBYS, you've heard that word before.

The reality is that our provincial government has gotten itself in a bind by taking on a very significant initiative to tear down existing "DIRTY" power generating capacity and replace it with new capacity and new technology, well, newer technology. The initiative is applauded, but are the real potential benefits being realized? Based on information presented in the TCE’s draft Air Quality Assessment Report, this proposed power plant has the potential to produce about 2.6 million tonnes (2,600,000,000 kg) of CO2 (identified as a major greenhouse gas) per year. This represents almost 12.5% of CO2 emissions in Ontario based on 1996 data. Are we suppose to be proud to have this in our backyard? Notwithstanding these emissions, ambient air quality in the surrounding area will be impacted.

There have been prolonged delays by the provincial government in seeing new power supply initiatives materialize and now decisions HAVE TO BE MADE. Nuclear is being considered as well as wind power, hmm… Apparently, we, the residents of Milton, our community, will suffer at the expense of the greater good based on providing new power still based on fossil fuel technology at the least cost. Cost, yes, cost is indeed a driving force, not environment, not renewable or sustainable energy. Sacrifice our community for the good of the GTA? Umm, this is not the way things work and the government knows it has a problem – just look at the massive failure and massive costs expended in trying to locate a new landfill to service Toronto and surroundings…….

Having said all of that, and having sounded somewhat defeated in the reality of this situation, it seems we still have opportunity to express our concern and educate the public. The approach has to be based on fact, not fear or fiction. Educate the public. Identify our concerns. The question remains, “Do we want something like this in our backyard?” Not me and I am sure not you or any of my neighbours. Anyone want to invest in carbon credits?


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