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I'm a little confused by your post proudowner. Are you saying that Mr. Tiger Jeet Singh has an advantage over others because of the colour of his skin, eyes and/or last name and because of that shouldn't have the school named after him? I'm not saying you are, I'm just trying to figure out what you mean exactly with your statement.

Oh and just to clarify, the recruiter you used in that example is indeed being racist, at least in my view. Part of the 'racism' definition from the dictionary goes....



That sure sounds to me what the recruiter was being.

I did get a laugh though out of how some people in our society apparently hid behind this word 'culturist' to defend their racist/prejudice beliefs (and I'm not saying any certain individual on here is doing this necessarily).

Oh, did I come off so confusing?

- I am saying Tiger Jeet Singh is being singled out because of his name, if he had a name like Watson we would not have this many post ranting about the school name. More of a disadvantage.

- The recruiter should not have a job. But I don't think he discriminated based on race. His discrimination was based on stereotyping a group of people (Asian, Polish, African, Chinese etc) based on an attribute, last name. And his conclusion was with such a name they would not speak good english or at best have a strong accent.

Thanks for the clarlification

Culturist is just a label racists created to describe themselves so they could be referred to by a word that isn't loaded with such blatant and deserved negativity. Racists never see them selves as racist though.

Too true. BUT, I think its important to stand up for what's right when mean-spirited threads are created. I just refere folks back the first post that started this particular thread. Intolerance should be confronted and stood up to whenever it rears its ugly head.



There have been threads on those other things, but comprehending tax policy is bit tricky for laypeople. Ultimately the HST will have some benefits and some negatives. Those will be played out differently to an indvidual depending on what you do for a living, what you earn, how you live your life. There isn't an easy consensus to understand such a tax policy despite both sides trying to paint it as simple. Once you add related, but unrelated tax credits or tax shifts which is part of the whole package the HST was part of, laypeople will NOT understand how it all together will or won't leave them better off in the end.

When it comes to the naming of this particular school, its a more simple black and white type of discussion (pun not intended).

So, if he was Hulk Hogan, who played a good guy role, it would be ok? I don't think playing the role of a villain should disqualify him.

Although, again, the school name was picked based on his philanthropy, long history of residency AND service to the Milton community. He happened to also be a visible minority - the chairities took his money anyway and it did good. He's been here longer than the bulk of us on this forum and has been contributing to this community in more ways than many of us do. As such, this was Mr. Singh's town before it became ours too.

Interesting, now according to some of you even term “culture” is racism too.
OK.
Example. Person refusing to wear motorcycle helmet because he already has something on his head or same kind of person doesn’t want to wear protection hat, for same reason.
But all of us must wear helmet, protection hat, even if we don’t like it. Doesn’t it make him racists? The person who refuse to follow the rules of common sense established here historically by white people and rules followed by people of any color.
He puts his cultural believes above public rules. According to some of you this is racism as well.

It crossed my mind to do a story on the school's name and opposition, but I ended up doing the library one instead (also on the front page, may I add). It's an issue that that I feel anyway deserves equal time and concern.

In skimming the story I see no quotes from local politicans- only John Challinor... who is a former a councilor, and is now heavily involved with the Historical Society. In reading through it, I would call it a balanced article, and knowing the writer- have no doubt that was the clear intent.

It's an election year, and if our elected officials or those folks running were to voice sentiments similar to those found on this thread they'd lose.

There are enough examples to make the case that many professionals (in the health care field and many other professional fields) from other countries are underutilized in Canada's workforce. This is fact. Not everyone driving a cab is, but many are. Governments of all stripes and all levels recognize this and have tried to make recruitment of foriegn-trained professionals in many fields, including health, a key priority of government.

Um, you got my real point right?

To your points, he was predominantly a face for his career. Many wrestlers move been face (good guy) and heel (bad guy) in their careers so that their characters (as professional actors are athletic actors) stay fresh. I do know about the NWO, but that wasn't the point. He is viewed as a good guy icon for wrestling.



That was sarcasm or a dig, right?



If we're going to be this microscopic and isolate one quote from retired politicos, than posters here should be able to take the same kind of scrutiny on their posts. The added bonus of the internet is that its faceless and anonymous vs. the quotes of politicians. Also, as had been stated by many actually involved officials, with a list of quotes available online, the school naming decision was based on TJS' philanthropy not wrestling career or skin colour.

The issue about creditionaling. The provincial professional colleges are looking at ensuring that we recognize proper credentials. We're not there yet - lots of red tap and, ahem, "cultural" barriers....



You should read up on this issue. Its a pretty big one. We entice foriegn professionals to come to Canada and then don't recognize their credentials.



You are wrong. Sorry.

Immigrants underemployed according to Stats Can:

http://www.bclocalnews.com/surrey_area/ ... 34297.html

http://www.uwogazette.ca/2009/11/30/imm ... remployed/



Info on the challenge of foriegn trained doctrors:

http://www.readersdigest.ca/mag/2004/08/doctors.html

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/s ... e=&no_ads=

http://www.cihi.ca/cihiweb/dispPage.jsp ... 20090820_e

BTW, anyone notice how this thread has drifted from naming of schools to um "culturalist" concerns to other immigrant type issues.

Doesn't that really signify that the issue behind concerns over the naming of TJS is really about race/culture/whathaveyou than wrestling, etc.

Just a thought.

I appreciate your sentiment, but I am not naive. This issue has been around for over a decade. Respectfully, I know what I am talking about.

Here's another from stats can that looked back to 2006: http://www.statcan.gc.ca/pub/75-001-x/2 ... 66-eng.htm

I agree. What offends critics most here are either race or their influenced by hyper-parenting tendencies (on their views of wrestling). The school name really should be an issue. Chris Hadfield school didn't get this kind of internet tempest-in-a-teapot reaction.



I have no idea what you mean. The culturalist stuff wasn't started by me. And, while I don't know fixkarma, but I certainly have been a moderate voice here despite what I've read by some here.

To try to get back on topic, which was generic (maybe) about naming of schools .... I understand some would like the elementary to be named after Coates Crossing. Who is Coates? Not sure why the community was named after him/her. Just searching for some info. Thanks.