VCola wrote:
Stuck Here wrote:
Where the whole argument falls apart in in the fact that you're not comparing the same thing.
I disagree with your comment. I'm a proud Canadian and if you think we have no culture here perhaps you've spent too much time abroad to enjoy all the wonders Canada has to offer.
We have a very young undefined culture that is in flux. Things that have been invented / installed within the last century are bound to change just by the nature of the beast, by contrast and what I talk of in the original post is well ... the rest of the world who have socks older than Canada.
VCola wrote:
Stuck Here wrote:
Canada is a new country that doesn't have a millennia + of culture.
It may not have been called Canada but the country didn't just fall out of the sky close to two centuries ago. The natives were here well before the white man ever stumbled onto the content. Allegedly Vikings also visited the east coast well before Columbus set sail.
Yes, I proudly celebrate Thanksgiving every year ... in the clean pure form as a celebration of the native culture ... not the raping of the native people, their land or anything like that. I also celebrate the American Thanksgiving, but that's mainly because I like pilgrams.
VCola wrote:
Stuck Here wrote:
We are a boring vast country with no identity.
Boring? Clearly you missed the excitment of the Vancouver Olympics or a Game 7 of a Stanley Cup Final. I know what you're going to say, US based teams have won the cup for the last 19 years. If you were to say that I would remind you that hockey is Canadian and the Cup was donated and named after an English Lord, as close as Canada came to having its own policitical body in place at the time.
Where to start ... Olympics are vast waste of resouces that amount to a pissing contest between countries and a corporate shill that governments use to force though public works developemnts that should be done anyway.
VCola wrote:
Boring? Clearly you've never been to see the mountians in Banff, majestic and definately not boring. Have you ever walked down Rue St. Catherines Street in Montreal on a Saturday afternoon in the summer? With all the hub bub going on it is far from boring.
Been to Banff, pretty sure, tourist trap, you bet. Rue St. Catherines, I lived in Montreal and worked on the corner of St. Catherines and Sherbrooke. Side note, the other thread that talks about the Milton downtown festival, Milton should model the street festivals on Montreal's Ave Mont Royal.
VCola wrote:
No identity? You said you were a traveller. Have you ever sewn a Canadian flag patch to your backpack. If you have I'll bet you were recognized as Canadian around the globe by people from all walks of life.
Not a backpacker I'm afraid. I suppose if I had been, the differenciation of not being Americian would be welcome, I'll give you that.
VCola wrote:
No identity? Although it has changed in over the past decade how is it we are recognized all throughout the world as a peacekeeping nation?
I lived overseas in Europe for years and then the Middle East, not once did anyone ever talk to me about the peacekeeping force
that is Canada. I think the most I ever heard was that "ohh ... a very nice country, very polite people." Outside of Canada we're not even known for having good coffee or beer. (we only do in comparison to USA I'm afraid)
Ahh I forgot, I was asked if I was a lumberjack once while in England ... 100% serious.
VCola wrote:
Stuck Here wrote:
Telling people to adapt to a embrace a weak/non-existent culture is impossible and setting people up for immediate failure.
Isn't that a huge part of the problem, we don't tell people to adapt. We accomodate instead of insist that our way of life adopted by all new comers, at least in Ontario. Perhaps we should be more like our freres et soeurs in Quebec and make our culture a priority by insisting it be preserved.
I do agree in part, but Quebec has a much more defined culture, like a little country village in France that got stuck in time from a language and food perspective. Define being an Ontarioian. It's not possible. We could get into an awesome 'Milton Mom's' style debate on the merits of saying merry christmas being a defined cultural feature or as they would say there 'why are those immigrants telling me that I can't say merry crhistmas!'.
Or just skip to the end of the protracted arguement and get to the result: Immigrants aren't the ones saying don't say 'merry christmas' it's the moron politically correct people (read fat white middle aged politicians) trying to make things just cheery for everyone, combined with corporations who ... if you can believe it ... don't actually want to
exclude anyone as they know Jews and Muslims also buy sh*t too as they often have holidays at the same time of year! And so do Athiests like me by the way.
VCola wrote:
Why are you stuck here? You're an adult aren't you? If you don't like it here move.
Life is a bitch sometimes isn't it.
VCola wrote:
Stuck Here wrote:
Or perhaps you're just some 16 year old kid whos idea of travel is the time your parents took you to Disney World.
OMG like you totes got it!
