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I’d be happy if Mattamy would simply disclose that they have half assed quality control and your home is almost certain to be short on insulation and missing shingles.

Glad you are having fun with this. We could all use a laugh right about now.

Can you tell me why the dump is mentioned on the sales agreement, but the intermodal is not? Now, I don't know if the intermodal is mentioned on sales agreements now that CN made an official announcement in March 2015. I have no idea if Ontario builders even have to disclose that type of information on the sales agreement. I believe in the U.S. they do. I wonder if anyone on here knows?

Yikes.

I only seek to have the names of the individuals with the prior knowledge made public for the purpose of knowing who you are dealing with. This is not to extract a pound of flesh for myself, nope, I am for the CN intermodal terminal, stated that early on in this thread. I am mad that a group of elected officials with prior knowledge, stayed quiet about this until the official gag order was placed – convenient. However if the names provided, give help to those affected with an avenue to extract their pound of flesh, then go for it.

So why did they stay quiet?

Could any of these individuals profit from withholding this information, could this group have allowed a business or businesses to profit by not allowing the public to know? These individuals are elected by the people from this area and region not elected by the businesses they could possibly be protecting. This group that keep quiet by not allowing this information to be leaked, allowed people to make decisions to buy homes near that area. Anyone new to this area prior to the announcement would not have known a CN Terminal is planned and it would not show up on any area plans as a terminal. For those that now know there will be a CN terminal and it does not bother them, okay. However there is also a group that it does bother, with the possible angst or fear of not knowing how it could impact them. Since the CN announcement, some local politicians are not making those feeling the angst any happier with some of their predictions. You can say buyer beware but in this case it would have been nearly impossible for a potential buyer to know what was being built there. Again by holding back information to the public, this group affected many lives and families possibly. They did not asked to be put in that situation and especially if they knew it before hand this could have been a different matter for them.

Recently, in case anyone missed it, one elected politician – Colin Best, at a boy ! , did try to put forth a motion to notify potential buyers of the CN Intermodal hub but was shot down by Mayor Krantz. Mayor Krantz was worried more about the local builders filing suit for lost sales against the town than future citizens. Colin seems to be one of our true local hero’s here, wish he would run for mayor.

The only elected official to date, to state they had prior knowledge of this matter when asked is, the Honourable Lisa Raitt. The others hide behind her dress.

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Well, in the Mayors defense, he is right to be concerned about lawsuits seeing that he and the town are being sued for canceling a development deal improperly. That one’s going to be quietly settled with a non-disclosure agreement attached to it I guarantee.

As for who knew what when, we pretty much know. Krantz and Carr both knew. Most likely, nobody below them did as evidenced by Zeesh’s surprise at learning of this. I’m sure some town/regional employees also knew, but they aren’t elected.

So you're saying it's been known about by certain parties for quite some time but was kept from the general public?

And also kept from buyers who bought in the area even though it was known before selling started?

Do you think the builders knew about it before sales started?

Interesting about the motion Colin put forward, but surely now any builder would have to list this in its warning clauses now that it is public knowledge no?

Interestingly on Halton's web site devoted to information about this project it even says in the key dates that CN first shared its intent with them to proceed with the project in January so at the very least the region knew then. Funny enough this would have been about the same time sales for the area started but nobody said anything until the "official" announcement in mid-March.

Finally... a few people are starting to understand the real issue and ask the right questions.

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Correct me if I am wrong, but the region and town make a lot of money from development charges from the builder so they would want those home sold as well.

I guess the question is, did the region inform the builder of CN's intentions in January of 2015? If they did, is the builder required by law, to disclose this information to the purchaser on it's sales agreement?

CN doesn’t need to pay development charges because the town/region doesn’t have to develop anything to support the facility. So it’s not lost money.

You could argue some money is needed to expand roads, but in the grand scheme of things it’s not significant. I imagine CN would gladly pay a few mill to support those costs if our elected officials would get on board and support the project rather then grandstand for voters.

I tend to take the simplistic view on these things. There’s no corruption or conspiracy to cash in by anyone here. Carr and Krantz wanted this kept quiet solely so they could get elected again. That’s as deep as this goes. Show me evidence otherwise and I’ll change my tune.

I don't know if you have the names right, but tilting the election is the speculative ballpark I'm sitting in as well.

It may be bigger than that, but so far the little slips that have come out here have only indicated delaying the info for that purpose.

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Bremer, I was referring to the development charges that the town and region collect from the builder for the subdivision. I would think that is a significant amount of money.

Are you saying you have not seen other people posting on this topic?

Or not.

Well even Town of Milton very clearly states to find out what is around you before you buy
It is the first bullet point on their brochure which has been in circulation since at least 2013
They also say to call the town at provided number if builder does not tell you
So I assume you did some basic due diligence before ranting online?

https://www.milton.ca/en/live/resources ... 2_2014.pdf

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