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After missing the bus :oops:

I drove my son to school (PL Robertson). Unfortunately it's too far for us to walk without planning. I was leaving the school, with my 5 year old and 2 year old in the car...and a man walking with his maybe SK or Grade 1 daughter literally decides to walk into Scott without even looking, with such a sense of entitlement. I was shocked. Thank God I was going maybe 20-30 kms (I had just turned out of the school a block before) but I couldn't believe that someone..especially crossing with their small daughter would just walk out into traffic.

I had the window already open so as I passed by...I very calmly and in a friendly tone said...."You can't just walk into the middle of the road"...I said it in a bit of an incredulous voice, as I couldn't believe he would do that. Thank God I'm not one of the speeders on Scott, this guy and his daughter would have been done for sure.

He swings his head over his shoulder and yells...(in front of a walking school bus and his daughter and everyone else..) "SCREW YOU".

Jessica

It's not about apples and apples...the issue is not in question. As stated below it's the natural (negative) reaction someone has to being corrected by a stranger.

prayagrajexpress wrote:

Behavioural psychology but a pedestrian (at fault agreed) surrounded by cars may react such given he had his daughter and you were in a car, making him even more vulnerable.

Very sorry to say but you started the argument at the wrong time and place. You should have shown true Milton spirit and let him cross and just smile and shake your head I bet he would have understood.

Just as natural is the act to stop and correct a stranger which accomplishes nothing except making the receiver defensive. I agree with the above statement that "...you started the argument at the wrong time and place. You should have shown true Milton spirit and let him cross and just smile and shake your head I bet he would have understood."
Would criticizing everyone all the time make our society a nicer place?...I don't think so.

Don't take this personally...but I can't stand people like you. Nothing annoys me more then strangers stopping to voice their opinion. Strangers feel degraded by being disciplined by people like you...think how you would feel. If someone stopped you and told you that driving around in your pajama bottoms is offensive and you should be ashamed, I'm sure you would not appreciate their comment.

[There's no reference as to where the person and child were crossing, they could have been crossing from a corner of another street. (marked or not, that does give some point of reference for a pedestrian crossing point)

And technically, pedestrians are always in the right, above cars. In the situation, it's more a matter of principal, the fact being that the person and child started crossing without paying attention to any cars making their way up the street. My two cents, people should stop and allow pedestrian to cross, assuming the pedestrian isn't attempting to cross a three lane highway. :shock:

Tim

Morale of my ramblings this morning....I love Milton. We have some great people living here. Apart from Mr. Someone Sh*t in his Shreddies....I think we have an amazing community.

Jessica

i find it funny when drivers think they can discipline others. On two different occasions i have gotten out of my car to confront drivers who were behind me giving me the finger and what not.

when i got out what did they do? Nothing. They went all quiet and pretended like it didnt happen. What gives people the right to give me the finger or honk their horn like crazy just because they are in a car?

... but instead it left me thinking, 'ooookay, fat Princess.'

Author:	hockeymortgagemom [ Mon Apr 12, 2010 8:54 am ]
Post subject:	My Morning in Milton
I don't know why I feel so compelled to post this....but I've already had an interesting morning..... After missing the bus I drove my son to school (PL Robertson). Unfortunately it's too far for us to walk without planning. I was leaving the school, with my 5 year old and 2 year old in the car...and a man walking with his maybe SK or Grade 1 daughter literally decides to walk into Scott without even looking, with such a sense of entitlement. I was shocked. Thank God I was going maybe 20-30 kms (I had just turned out of the school a block before) but I couldn't believe that someone..especially crossing with their small daughter would just walk out into traffic. I had the window already open so as I passed by...I very calmly and in a friendly tone said...."You can't just walk into the middle of the road"...I said it in a bit of an incredulous voice, as I couldn't believe he would do that. Thank God I'm not one of the speeders on Scott, this guy and his daughter would have been done for sure. He swings his head over his shoulder and yells...(in front of a walking school bus and his daughter and everyone else..) "SCREW YOU". Ummmmmmm OK. Sir...I understand your frustration...truly I do. I'm one of the biggest "bitchers" about the problems on Scott...but this is not how we cross the road...frustrated or not. And a fine example you set for your daughter both on road/traffic safety, as well as with your fine example of a mouth. Correct me if I'm wrong (and I may be) but do we not have a crossing guard one block up in front of the school now?? If you are that frustrated, please use it!! If we don't yet...I know it's coming..please be patient and don't play Frogger with your daughter. ONWARDS..... On my way to the bank a little later on.....I'm stopped at a red light, (window still open) and a man stops next to me. He has tonnes of room to move up and he's staring at me, so I'm wondering what's up so I roll down the window a little more....expecting him to ask directions or maybe give me crap for unknowingly cutting him off (guilty conscience from earlier I guess). He proceeds to "pick me up" LOL. "I'm sorry for staring, but you are beautiful. Would you like to join me for a coffee at Tims up ahead??" I was dumbfounded....LOLOLOLOL. The light had changed...so I stammered out..."I'm sorry...." and then drove off!!!!! LOLOLOL Background...I'm a mom of 4....7 months pregnant on my way to mom of 5. He couldn't have seen the belly...but I'm driving a minivan...glasses on, and still wearing pyjama bottoms. LOL I've been flirted with but not "picked up" in a long time. I didn't know what to say. Sir....I'm so sorry if I came off rude. You made my morning, I'm truly flattered. ONWARDS...to Milton Hydro. I had made an error, and needed to make my payment and change my PAP account. I'd been there on Thursday and Friday...and for whatever reason missed them at closing time. I expected a bit of a battle to be honest. The lady at the payment desk was nothing short of amazing. She handled things quickly and efficiently, apologized for whatever happened on Thurs and Friday and assured me everything would be amended on my account in time for next month. THANK YOU!!! Morale of my ramblings this morning....I love Milton. We have some great people living here. Apart from Mr. Someone Sh*t in his Shreddies....I think we have an amazing community. Jessica

Author:	sgorsline [ Mon Apr 12, 2010 9:02 am ]
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Your post got me thinking about how much we love Milton too!!! Yesterday we made an impromptu visit to Mill Pond with our two young kids. We walked around the ponds, looked at fish, played at the park in Rotary Park, walked downtown to Jay's Ice Cream--ate the best ice cream ever and watched cars drive by on Main St. It sounds so silly, but it was super fun and it was all in our own town! We had talked about driving to Oakville earlier in the day to walk around their downtown, but I am really glad we stayed in Milton. I love Milton too (even though no one tried to pick me up!!!)

Author:	prayagrajexpress [ Mon Apr 12, 2010 9:48 am ]
Post subject:	Re: My Morning in Milton
Behavioural psychology but a pedestrian (at fault agreed) surrounded by cars may react such given he had his daughter and you were in a car, making him even more vulnerable. Very sorry to say but you started the argument at the wrong time and place. You should have shown true Milton spirit and let him cross and just smile and shake your head I bet he would have understood. hockeymortgagemom wrote: After missing the bus I drove my son to school (PL Robertson). Unfortunately it's too far for us to walk without planning. I was leaving the school, with my 5 year old and 2 year old in the car...and a man walking with his maybe SK or Grade 1 daughter literally decides to walk into Scott without even looking, with such a sense of entitlement. I was shocked. Thank God I was going maybe 20-30 kms (I had just turned out of the school a block before) but I couldn't believe that someone..especially crossing with their small daughter would just walk out into traffic. I had the window already open so as I passed by...I very calmly and in a friendly tone said...."You can't just walk into the middle of the road"...I said it in a bit of an incredulous voice, as I couldn't believe he would do that. Thank God I'm not one of the speeders on Scott, this guy and his daughter would have been done for sure. He swings his head over his shoulder and yells...(in front of a walking school bus and his daughter and everyone else..) "SCREW YOU". Jessica

Author:	Absalon [ Mon Apr 12, 2010 10:50 am ]
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That's life.

Author:	Kiddan [ Mon Apr 12, 2010 11:42 am ]
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^^^ Here we go. My prediction is 4 pages...

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Author:	AYS Mark [ Mon Apr 12, 2010 11:43 am ]
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OK well your argument would have more merit if you were comparing apples to apples, instead you are comparing driving in pajamas to endangering lives (including your own childs) I agree with the OP, and I think more people have to stand up and say something when people act irresponsibly. Our society has become too anonymous and that is the reason for alot of the issues we have: everyone thinks it is their God given right to do whatever they want without reproach.

Author:	AYS Mark [ Mon Apr 12, 2010 12:56 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: My Morning in Milton
jpetry wrote: It's not about apples and apples...the issue is not in question. As stated below it's the natural (negative) reaction someone has to being corrected by a stranger. prayagrajexpress wrote: Behavioural psychology but a pedestrian (at fault agreed) surrounded by cars may react such given he had his daughter and you were in a car, making him even more vulnerable. Very sorry to say but you started the argument at the wrong time and place. You should have shown true Milton spirit and let him cross and just smile and shake your head I bet he would have understood. Just as natural is the act to stop and correct a stranger which accomplishes nothing except making the receiver defensive. I agree with the above statement that "...you started the argument at the wrong time and place. You should have shown true Milton spirit and let him cross and just smile and shake your head I bet he would have understood." Would criticizing everyone all the time make our society a nicer place?...I don't think so. But you're missing the point, he was clearly in the wrong, braking the law, and worst of all showing a disregard for the life of his child. It has been much publicized that there are more pedestrians being killed all the time now, and this kind of behavior is partly to blame. I agree that people need to choose their battles, but pointing out to someone who is clearly in the wrong is a battle worth choosing. Should we ignore aggressive drivers and stop sign runners too, so as not to criticize?

Author:	csb101 [ Mon Apr 12, 2010 1:08 pm ]
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Quote: Don't take this personally...but I can't stand people like you. Nothing annoys me more then strangers stopping to voice their opinion. Strangers feel degraded by being disciplined by people like you...think how you would feel. If someone stopped you and told you that driving around in your pajama bottoms is offensive and you should be ashamed, I'm sure you would not appreciate their comment. Are you for real or are you being sarcastic? You go off on a rant but then end it with a cool face as if to sound sarcastic. I hope you were sarcastic there because you were pretty funny in what you said...'don't take this personally but I can't stand you'...haha. Yeah I wouldn't take that personally.

Author:	sanj75 [ Mon Apr 12, 2010 1:09 pm ]
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This guy is crossing in the middle of the road. I don't understand how people don't look both sides even on a pedestrian crossing. I always look .. never know what kind of drivers we have on the road. its not right of way but "right of weight" . Btw the stopping at the red light pick up story was amusing. Never knew people did that.

Author:	AYS Mark [ Mon Apr 12, 2010 1:12 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: My Morning in Milton
Tim wrote: [There's no reference as to where the person and child were crossing, they could have been crossing from a corner of another street. (marked or not, that does give some point of reference for a pedestrian crossing point) And technically, pedestrians are always in the right, above cars. In the situation, it's more a matter of principal, the fact being that the person and child started crossing without paying attention to any cars making their way up the street. My two cents, people should stop and allow pedestrian to cross, assuming the pedestrian isn't attempting to cross a three lane highway. Tim Pedestrians are always in the right? Can anyone confirm this? If that's true then there can be no such offence as Jaywalking. But I am sure I read that in Toronto they are blitzing jaywalkers and handing out tickets to get the point across. Someone should tell everyone that gets a ticket that they dont have to pay, and their rights have been violated.

Author:	Rick Di Lorenzo [ Mon Apr 12, 2010 1:15 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: My Morning in Milton
hockeymortgagemom wrote: Morale of my ramblings this morning....I love Milton. We have some great people living here. Apart from Mr. Someone Sh*t in his Shreddies....I think we have an amazing community. Jessica Great post IMHO, nice happy ending I'm thankful we live on Winter Cres. I'm thinking we're just going to walk Ryan to school when he's older through the back-access way to HVPS at the rear so we'll likely never experience the whole parking-lot-thing at the public school. Yes, I agree with sgorsline (further down the thread), Jay's does have great ice cream! Haven't visited them this year yet. Have to make up for that.

Author:	stilldeciding [ Mon Apr 12, 2010 1:25 pm ]
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Dabills wrote: i find it funny when drivers think they can discipline others. On two different occasions i have gotten out of my car to confront drivers who were behind me giving me the finger and what not. when i got out what did they do? Nothing. They went all quiet and pretended like it didnt happen. What gives people the right to give me the finger or honk their horn like crazy just because they are in a car? In this day and age it's crazy to get out of your car to confront someone because they honked their horn or gave you the finger.

Author:	AlphaMale [ Mon Apr 12, 2010 1:57 pm ]
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I can relate to the sense of entitlement part. I was leaving the Tims on Bronte/Derry towards the lights last week, and some woman pushing a baby carriage just crosses the road towards the Shopper's while I'm driving. I saw her so I stopped obviously, but she looks over at me with a glare like I'm supposed to stop as though she unconditionally has the right of way as she crosses (even though I did). If she waved thanks like most people would have, I would have been cool, but instead it left me thinking, 'ooookay, fat Princess.' Funny on the pick-up part. You weren't flattered? In any case, if I were him, I would have at least suggested Starbucks or Coffee Culture, lol, since Tim Hortons is not very date-friendly nor sophisticated enough to satisfy or impress today's demanding modern woman anyways for a guy. Credit him for having the balls to proposition though. Incidentally, there are a lot of cute/attractive moms here in town who you wouldn't think would be moms. It's all about perspective. You can get mad at stuff at the drop of a hat like many people on this site do, or just take the good with the bad and let the bad stuff go that's not going to matter 5 minutes or 5 hours from now (i.e. like rude street-crossers). I encounter an equal amount (i.e. 50/50) of rude and really friendly people in town, and the friendly people are always more memorable like the people who pay at drive-thrus for the person behind him/her, or the cute kid who says hi to strangers in grocery stores and his mom or dad ends up making quick, cordial small talk with me.

Author:	AlphaMale [ Mon Apr 12, 2010 2:15 pm ]
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I went to Jay's ice cream last month during that nice stretch of March weather during March Break week, but personally didn't like it. I got the mint chocolate chip. The prices were really fair and the staff was great, but I found the ice cream to be fluffy and light, and didn't have the melt-in-your mouth feel that good ice cream gives.

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Author:	fugee [ Mon Apr 12, 2010 2:32 pm ]
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AlphaMale...not sure why but that almost made me pee my pants...thanks. AlphaMale wrote: ... but instead it left me thinking, 'ooookay, fat Princess.' My day started great with dropping the kids to school and then going for coffee with my wife at Country Mile.