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Ummmm, my friends from Stratford would beg to differ about activities, and comparing to Waterloo isn't fair either - it's basically attached to Kitchner (population 200,000) plus has 2 major universities. It's more comparable to Oakville/Burlington.

You also need to read up on the Milton Laurier Campus. It will be bigger than the Waterloo campus. It will START with a student population that matches what Brantford currently is.

http://www.insidehalton.com/news-story/ ... er-campus/

You also need to learn more about the velodrome. It will provide recreational opportunties for a lot more than elite and fearless recreational cyclists. There will be a walking track (looking forward to one not over an ice rink), the infield accomodates basketball, volleyball, badminton, and other gymnasium-suitable sports, trade show/indoor entertainment space bigger than Memorial Arena - somewhere to hold special events like concerts that would be looking for an audience bigger than the 500 seat theater at the Arts Center. Look at the events calander for the Hershey Center in Mississauga to get an idea - similar seating capacity. Really though it's most likely to see sporting events like basketball and volleyball tournaments, martial arts tournaments, and other types of events like that.

http://www.milton.ca/en/townhall/VelodromeFAQs.asp

The actual cycling programs will encompass a wide range of abilities and ages.
http://www.milton.ca/en/play/resources/ ... ograms.pdf


I don't know where you read that the campus will be bigger than Waterloo's but the article said the campus will have the capacity to expand to 15,000 which is different from planning to reach 15,000 students. Waterloo is currently at 15,000 students.

Stratford has a third of Milton's population. It's still a lot more interesting in my opinion, whether there are activities or not. Oakville and Burlington are significantly larger than Milton but they at least have nice waterfronts and more culture/festivals/music/interesting businesses than Milton as well as thriving downtown areas.

What we need is a big draw. Have you ever heard of people patronizing Milton as tourists? Perhaps if they are passing through or they have to have a business conference here but not just to check out Milton. What would they come for? To see "Ontario's fasting growing community"? That's the only thing that is really significant or unique about Milton, other than the velodrome (only interesting to professional cyclists and the other things that will be in it we already had at the Sports Centre) and local famous people (who have long ago died or left) Chris Hadfield and P.L Robertson. Is the Laurier campus unique? Not really. Waterloo and Brantford also have Laurier campuses. Even so, students are being deterred from university because of the rising tuition costs and the practicality of college or learning a trade.

I'm glad you're happy living here and I am relatively happy as well (it is, after all, a relatively safe community with plenty of bike paths and all the big box plazas you could ever want). I just wish our town was a little bit more interesting and inspiring.


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freemantrailfamily wrote:
Ummmm, my friends from Stratford would beg to differ about activities, and comparing to Waterloo isn't fair either - it's basically attached to Kitchner (population 200,000) plus has 2 major universities. It's more comparable to Oakville/Burlington.

You also need to read up on the Milton Laurier Campus. It will be bigger than the Waterloo campus. It will START with a student population that matches what Brantford currently is.

http://www.insidehalton.com/news-story/ ... er-campus/

You also need to learn more about the velodrome. It will provide recreational opportunties for a lot more than elite and fearless recreational cyclists. There will be a walking track (looking forward to one not over an ice rink), the infield accomodates basketball, volleyball, badminton, and other gymnasium-suitable sports, trade show/indoor entertainment space bigger than Memorial Arena - somewhere to hold special events like concerts that would be looking for an audience bigger than the 500 seat theater at the Arts Center. Look at the events calander for the Hershey Center in Mississauga to get an idea - similar seating capacity. Really though it's most likely to see sporting events like basketball and volleyball tournaments, martial arts tournaments, and other types of events like that.

http://www.milton.ca/en/townhall/VelodromeFAQs.asp

The actual cycling programs will encompass a wide range of abilities and ages.
http://www.milton.ca/en/play/resources/ ... ograms.pdf


I don't know where you read that the campus will be bigger than Waterloo's but the article said the campus will have the capacity to expand to 15,000 which is different from planning to reach 15,000 students. Waterloo is currently at 15,000 students.

Stratford has a third of Milton's population. It's still a lot more interesting in my opinion, whether there are activities or not. Oakville and Burlington are significantly larger than Milton but they at least have nice waterfronts and more culture/festivals/music/interesting businesses than Milton as well as thriving downtown areas.

What we need is a big draw. Have you ever heard of people patronizing Milton as tourists? Perhaps if they are passing through or they have to have a business conference here but not just to check out Milton. What would they come for? To see "Ontario's fasting growing community"? That's the only thing that is really significant or unique about Milton, other than the velodrome (only interesting to professional cyclists and the other things that will be in it we already had at the Sports Centre) and local famous people (who have long ago died or left) Chris Hadfield and P.L Robertson. Is the Laurier campus unique? Not really. Waterloo and Brantford also have Laurier campuses. Even so, students are being deterred from university because of the rising tuition costs and the practicality of college or learning a trade.

I'm glad you're happy living here and I am relatively happy as well (it is, after all, a relatively safe community with plenty of bike paths and all the big box plazas you could ever want). I just wish our town was a little bit more interesting and inspiring.


Stratford has a small downtown with some nice heritage buildings clustered and well maintained, and some wacky intersections but aside from the Stratford festival nothing to make it terribly unique. The lake downtown is bigger than Mill Pond and a bit more of a feature but can't really change that here. The Stratford festival was initiated and is kept going by passionate volunteers who wanted to make something unique. Some local artisically minded smart people capitalized on being the namesake of Shakespear's hometown. You want something that you feel is unique in Milton - take the initiative yourself. It is not our local politicians job to do that. They can facilitate it if you do (and Milton's politician and municipal public servants do that). But wishing will not make it happen. You can though.

And yes, people do patronize Milton as tourists. The Conservation Areas bring in many from the GTA, particularly Kelso. Outdoor enthusiasts looking for hiking, trails, nature. A lot of cyclists flock to Milton for its unique natural features that make it a favourite recreational ride area. There are number of high quality popular golf courses. There have been initiatives in the Arts Community to build a Film Festival (last year was the first year) that the Center for the Arts facility has made possible. The Velodrome could generate some unique annual tourist events outside cycling. Mohawk Raceway has expansion plans that include a casino and golf course specifically targetted at tourism that I think are still on the table (timeframe TBA by Woodbine Entertainment depending on the fallout of the provincial gov't restructuring of the horseracing industry) - I'd have to ask a councillor about that. The point being - if you're dying for something unique in your eyes don't expect magic. Take the initiative yourself. That's how these things happen.


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freemantrailfamily wrote:
Margarita Maude wrote:
freemantrailfamily wrote:
Ummmm, my friends from Stratford would beg to differ about activities, and comparing to Waterloo isn't fair either - it's basically attached to Kitchner (population 200,000) plus has 2 major universities. It's more comparable to Oakville/Burlington.

You also need to read up on the Milton Laurier Campus. It will be bigger than the Waterloo campus. It will START with a student population that matches what Brantford currently is.

http://www.insidehalton.com/news-story/ ... er-campus/

You also need to learn more about the velodrome. It will provide recreational opportunties for a lot more than elite and fearless recreational cyclists. There will be a walking track (looking forward to one not over an ice rink), the infield accomodates basketball, volleyball, badminton, and other gymnasium-suitable sports, trade show/indoor entertainment space bigger than Memorial Arena - somewhere to hold special events like concerts that would be looking for an audience bigger than the 500 seat theater at the Arts Center. Look at the events calander for the Hershey Center in Mississauga to get an idea - similar seating capacity. Really though it's most likely to see sporting events like basketball and volleyball tournaments, martial arts tournaments, and other types of events like that.

http://www.milton.ca/en/townhall/VelodromeFAQs.asp

The actual cycling programs will encompass a wide range of abilities and ages.
http://www.milton.ca/en/play/resources/ ... ograms.pdf


I don't know where you read that the campus will be bigger than Waterloo's but the article said the campus will have the capacity to expand to 15,000 which is different from planning to reach 15,000 students. Waterloo is currently at 15,000 students.

Stratford has a third of Milton's population. It's still a lot more interesting in my opinion, whether there are activities or not. Oakville and Burlington are significantly larger than Milton but they at least have nice waterfronts and more culture/festivals/music/interesting businesses than Milton as well as thriving downtown areas.

What we need is a big draw. Have you ever heard of people patronizing Milton as tourists? Perhaps if they are passing through or they have to have a business conference here but not just to check out Milton. What would they come for? To see "Ontario's fasting growing community"? That's the only thing that is really significant or unique about Milton, other than the velodrome (only interesting to professional cyclists and the other things that will be in it we already had at the Sports Centre) and local famous people (who have long ago died or left) Chris Hadfield and P.L Robertson. Is the Laurier campus unique? Not really. Waterloo and Brantford also have Laurier campuses. Even so, students are being deterred from university because of the rising tuition costs and the practicality of college or learning a trade.

I'm glad you're happy living here and I am relatively happy as well (it is, after all, a relatively safe community with plenty of bike paths and all the big box plazas you could ever want). I just wish our town was a little bit more interesting and inspiring.


Stratford has a small downtown with some nice heritage buildings clustered and well maintained, and some wacky intersections but aside from the Stratford festival nothing to make it terribly unique. The lake downtown is bigger than Mill Pond and a bit more of a feature but can't really change that here. The Stratford festival was initiated and is kept going by passionate volunteers who wanted to make something unique. Some local artisically minded smart people capitalized on being the namesake of Shakespear's hometown. You want something that you feel is unique in Milton - take the initiative yourself. It is not our local politicians job to do that. They can facilitate it if you do (and Milton's politician and municipal public servants do that). But wishing will not make it happen. You can though.

And yes, people do patronize Milton as tourists. The Conservation Areas bring in many from the GTA, particularly Kelso. Outdoor enthusiasts looking for hiking, trails, nature. A lot of cyclists flock to Milton for its unique natural features that make it a favourite recreational ride area. There are number of high quality popular golf courses. There have been initiatives in the Arts Community to build a Film Festival (last year was the first year) that the Center for the Arts facility has made possible. The Velodrome could generate some unique annual tourist events outside cycling. Mohawk Raceway has expansion plans that include a casino and golf course specifically targetted at tourism that I think are still on the table (timeframe TBA by Woodbine Entertainment depending on the fallout of the provincial gov't restructuring of the horseracing industry) - I'd have to ask a councillor about that. The point being - if you're dying for something unique in your eyes don't expect magic. Take the initiative yourself. That's how these things happen.


Haha what a cop out. "It's not our problem, do it yourself." Why is it my responsibility? I don't know the first thing about city planning so I guess if you want someone to burn down Milton, I'm your woman! However, I do have eyes and I have lived here for many years so I am allowed to voice my opinion.

Everything that people patronize Milton for that you have listed are things that aren't unique, that people could find in almost any other Ontario town. Many more cyclists flock to Burlington or Hamilton than Milton, with their gorgeous waterfront bike trail that goes for miles.

I'm sure plenty of people have thought of ideas to make Milton better (and probably have the same complaint as me) but don't have the funds to make their dreams possible. If politicians think uniqueness and beauty aren't important in a community and the residents are the ones who have to do it (out of their own pockets as well), that is very disappointing to me.


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So what would make Milton "unique"? What makes Stratford "unique" in your eyes? (Again, Stratford Festival is not a public venture - started and run by private citizens with a passion, but has been supported by grants from their council over the years - like many arts groups in town). You can't make geography - our unique geography is Kelso and the Escarpment. Can't move Lake Ontario here. Maybe you should actually talk to your councillors about initiatives that have been brought forth or take a look at where town grants have gone.


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Creating "unique" tourist attractions is nearly always risky, expensive and controversial. You may see the velodrome as a white elephant. Many of us see it as a unique tourist attraction.
Izzy Asper in Winnipeg deperately wanted a holocost museum. He had the money and influence to make it happen. Waay over budget, waaay behind schedule, and will be a long time before we see if it proves itself. Sucked up a lot of federal tax dollars too. You really want something like that in Milton? Many would say that's what the velodrome is (you included). But then by your definition, that would be "just a museum" and lots of places have museums so it's not REALLY unique. THEMUSEUM in Kitchner has become a great tourist attraction - making use of a vacant department store that stood vacant for 10 years but it again was citizens initiative, backed by council support. That's just how things happen. It's not a cop-out at all.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_M ... man_Rights

But, even this initiative what spearheaded by an individual, not a politician (an individual who admittedly had the dollars and power to get whole ton MORE dollars). Milton residents are conservative enough they would not stand for such extravagance. You only have to look at the rumbles creating the Center for the Arts, the Town Hall expansion, and the Velodrome created to understand that. And you want something "unique"? Lets see what you propose and the response instead of a vague generality.


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freemantrailfamily wrote:
Creating "unique" tourist attractions is nearly always risky, expensive and controversial. You may see the velodrome as a white elephant. Many of us see it as a unique tourist attraction.
Izzy Asper in Winnipeg deperately wanted a holocost museum. He had the money and influence to make it happen. Waay over budget, waaay behind schedule, and will be a long time before we see if it proves itself. Sucked up a lot of federal tax dollars too. You really want something like that in Milton? Many would say that's what the velodrome is (you included). But then by your definition, that would be "just a museum" and lots of places have museums so it's not REALLY unique. THEMUSEUM in Kitchner has become a great tourist attraction - making use of a vacant department store that stood vacant for 10 years but it again was citizens initiative, backed by council support. That's just how things happen. It's not a cop-out at all.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_M ... man_Rights

But, even this initiative what spearheaded by an individual, not a politician (an individual who admittedly had the dollars and power to get whole ton MORE dollars). Milton residents are conservative enough they would not stand for such extravagance. You only have to look at the rumbles creating the Center for the Arts, the Town Hall expansion, and the Velodrome created to understand that. And you want something "unique"? Lets see what you propose and the response instead of a vague generality.


There is no vague generalities implied here I'm sure. The assumption that the velodrome will become a center of activities for the people of Milton is such an assumption. Everyone is now a great visionary if everyone plans grandiose schemes. The individual who spearheaded the velodrome could well do that financially but then he's only paying back what great profits he derives from continuing to build homes in Milton. Let's give it another 10 years to see if this gamble paid off.
Let's face it Milton is a bedroom community and the residents seek to be entertained elsewhere. If there are opportunities financially in Milton, investments will come normally.


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My vote will go to the candidate that can lure Costco to open a warehouse in Milton! Any one up for this challenge? :D :D


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I&J wrote:
freemantrailfamily wrote:
Creating "unique" tourist attractions is nearly always risky, expensive and controversial. You may see the velodrome as a white elephant. Many of us see it as a unique tourist attraction.
Izzy Asper in Winnipeg deperately wanted a holocost museum. He had the money and influence to make it happen. Waay over budget, waaay behind schedule, and will be a long time before we see if it proves itself. Sucked up a lot of federal tax dollars too. You really want something like that in Milton? Many would say that's what the velodrome is (you included). But then by your definition, that would be "just a museum" and lots of places have museums so it's not REALLY unique. THEMUSEUM in Kitchner has become a great tourist attraction - making use of a vacant department store that stood vacant for 10 years but it again was citizens initiative, backed by council support. That's just how things happen. It's not a cop-out at all.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_M ... man_Rights

But, even this initiative what spearheaded by an individual, not a politician (an individual who admittedly had the dollars and power to get whole ton MORE dollars). Milton residents are conservative enough they would not stand for such extravagance. You only have to look at the rumbles creating the Center for the Arts, the Town Hall expansion, and the Velodrome created to understand that. And you want something "unique"? Lets see what you propose and the response instead of a vague generality.


There is no vague generalities implied here I'm sure. The assumption that the velodrome will become a center of activities for the people of Milton is such an assumption. Everyone is now a great visionary if everyone plans grandiose schemes. The individual who spearheaded the velodrome could well do that financially but then he's only paying back what great profits he derives from continuing to build homes in Milton. Let's give it another 10 years to see if this gamble paid off.
Let's face it Milton is a bedroom community and the residents seek to be entertained elsewhere. If there are opportunities financially in Milton, investments will come normally.


You are right that time will tell if the velodrome can be made a success from a financial and cyclo-tourism standpoint. Margaurita Maudes statements about Milton being boring without any specifics as to what would make it intersting for her is definitely a vague generalitiy. I think Milton has grown beyond being a bedroom community though. We can find most things here for daily living and entertainment. Sure, like anywhere there's the occasional excursion to places like Wonderland, the downtown Theater District and what-not. That's like many places. Can't have everything. My friends from Stratford come into Toronto on a regular basis for the Musuem, Science Center and attractions they don't have. It's not cost-effective to have a Wonderland in every community. That's the beauty and challenge of living in the GTA - there are some very unique tourist attractions very close by. I agree Milton doesn't have anything like that - yet. Maybe it will in time depending on what the community wants and is willing to organize and pay for. Who knows? Does it take away from the quality of life here? No. Not at all. If she wants something unique (by whatever her definition of unique is), be part of the solution and do something about it instead of waiting for politicians to dream up something. It's not in their job description. They are facilitators and screeners for ideas.


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freemantrailfamily wrote:
I&J wrote:
freemantrailfamily wrote:
Creating "unique" tourist attractions is nearly always risky, expensive and controversial. You may see the velodrome as a white elephant. Many of us see it as a unique tourist attraction.
Izzy Asper in Winnipeg deperately wanted a holocost museum. He had the money and influence to make it happen. Waay over budget, waaay behind schedule, and will be a long time before we see if it proves itself. Sucked up a lot of federal tax dollars too. You really want something like that in Milton? Many would say that's what the velodrome is (you included). But then by your definition, that would be "just a museum" and lots of places have museums so it's not REALLY unique. THEMUSEUM in Kitchner has become a great tourist attraction - making use of a vacant department store that stood vacant for 10 years but it again was citizens initiative, backed by council support. That's just how things happen. It's not a cop-out at all.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_M ... man_Rights

But, even this initiative what spearheaded by an individual, not a politician (an individual who admittedly had the dollars and power to get whole ton MORE dollars). Milton residents are conservative enough they would not stand for such extravagance. You only have to look at the rumbles creating the Center for the Arts, the Town Hall expansion, and the Velodrome created to understand that. And you want something "unique"? Lets see what you propose and the response instead of a vague generality.


There is no vague generalities implied here I'm sure. The assumption that the velodrome will become a center of activities for the people of Milton is such an assumption. Everyone is now a great visionary if everyone plans grandiose schemes. The individual who spearheaded the velodrome could well do that financially but then he's only paying back what great profits he derives from continuing to build homes in Milton. Let's give it another 10 years to see if this gamble paid off.
Let's face it Milton is a bedroom community and the residents seek to be entertained elsewhere. If there are opportunities financially in Milton, investments will come normally.


You are right that time will tell if the velodrome can be made a success from a financial and cyclo-tourism standpoint. Margaurita Maudes statements about Milton being boring without any specifics as to what would make it intersting for her is definitely a vague generalitiy. I think Milton has grown beyond being a bedroom community though. We can find most things here for daily living and entertainment. Sure, like anywhere there's the occasional excursion to places like Wonderland, the downtown Theater District and what-not. That's like many places. Can't have everything. My friends from Stratford come into Toronto on a regular basis for the Musuem, Science Center and attractions they don't have. It's not cost-effective to have a Wonderland in every community. That's the beauty and challenge of living in the GTA - there are some very unique tourist attractions very close by. I agree Milton doesn't have anything like that - yet. Maybe it will in time depending on what the community wants and is willing to organize and pay for. Who knows? Does it take away from the quality of life here? No. Not at all. If she wants something unique (by whatever her definition of unique is), be part of the solution and do something about it instead of waiting for politicians to dream up something. It's not in their job description. They are facilitators and screeners for ideas.


Yes, I would definitely describe Milton as a bedroom community. I will be more specific (I can't be the only person who is bored with Milton!):

80,000 (that's only a 2011 statistic) and we have one movie theatre, one independent coffee shop, one mall that is a ghost town aside from Target, one or two very small museums, one arts centre and our attractions are The Farmer's Market, Chudleigh's, Kelso, Rattlesnake Point, Mohawk Racetrack, Country Heritage Park, Halton County Radial Railway, Crawford Lake, Springridge Farm, Mountsberg, Waldie's Blacksmith Shop, OLG Casino and various festivals. Most of these attractions are on the outskirts of town and what takes up most of Milton's scenery is urban sprawl, model homes and plazas filled with corporate chains and no small businesses.

For comparison:
Brantford (pop. 90,000): Canadian Military Heritage Museum, Laurier Brantford, Brantford Twin Valley Zoo, Sanderson Centre for the Arts, Bell Telephone Memorial, Arnold Anderson Stadium, Personal Computer Museum, Earl Haig Family Fun Park, Brant Museum and Archives, Glenhyrst Art Gallery, OLG Casino, Glenhyrst Gardens, Grand Valley Trails Park, Lorne Park, Wayne Gretzky Sports Centre

Burlington (you said it was more comparable than Waterloo but its population is around 164,000): The waterfront bike path, Royal Botanical Gardens, Spencer Smith Park, Burlington Art Centre, Mount Nemo, Burlington Mall, Bronte Creek Provincial Park, Ireland House Museum, Burlington City Hall, The Museum of Oddities, Climber's Rock Climbing Gym, plenty of golf clubs, Joseph Brant Museum, Primetime Bowl, Burlington Bowl, The Putting Edge, LaSalle Park, Outdoor Movies in the Park, Central Park Labyrinth, Sound of Music Festival, plenty of Conservation areas, Silver City Burlington

Stratford (pop. 30,000): Stratford Shakespeare Festival (and the hundreds of concerts and activities that come with it), Gallery Stratford, Canadian Baseball Hall of Fame, Stratford Summer Music Festival, Shakespearian Gardens, Brickman's Botanical Gardens, Loreena McKennit lives there (I wonder why she didn't choose Milton…), McCully's Farm, Millennium Park, Castle Kilbride, Railway Heritage Tours, plenty of walking and biking tours, Bicycle Opera, Stratford City Hall, Stratford-Perth Museum, Savour Stratford Culinary tours, Perth County slow food market, Avon River, Perth County Court House, not to mention the beautiful architecture and shops around town.

I think we are a fairly large town now, but our entertainment is like that of a small town. We're basically the worst of both worlds; the bad drivers and unfriendliness of a larger city with the limited entertainment and culture of a small town. Campbellville (which is part of Milton) is a town with a beautiful atmosphere (lots of nature and beautiful unique homes). It doesn't have as many attractions as Milton because it doesn't have the population and it can bank on small-town charm.

Entertainment-wise, what is there to do? Our sports centres, several bars, the arts centre, golfing, one overpriced bowling centre and a movie theatre. Other than that, it's shopping or leaving town (usually the preferable option).

Nature-wise, we've turned most of our trees and forests into corporate plaza after corporate plaza. We do have a few man-made parks and the Mill Pond but most of our nature is on the outskirts, too far away for most Miltonians to appreciate it.

I don't have an idea on how to change Milton. I just thought I was allowed to voice my opinion on a public forum without being voluntold to go work on a project that I have no desire to work on. Besides, the velodrome, the Laurier campus, etc were all organized by the town, not random citizens. I'm sure many of the attractions in the towns I mentioned were either organized by the town councillors and Mayor or they at least saw a need for entertainment, parks, etc and found a way to make sure the need was met. If the main goal of local politicians is not to make a city livable, beautiful, interesting , fun to live in and environmentally friendly, then what exactly is their goal?


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You left out Milton Center for the Arts and the many varied musical, theatre, dance and musical performances that brings at quite affordable prices.
Concert in the Park free concert series by Milton Concert Band.
Movies in the Park at Kelso
Fall Fair
Steam Era
Milton Film Festival
There is a philharmonic orchestra in the works
Street Festival (that is supported and promoted by the Town and highlights the best part of Milton's downtown)
Hand to Heart Arts Show, Culture Days that highlight the great musical talent in Milton
Country Heritage Park
Italian Club has great social activities and is a terrific crowd.

There is a lot that goes on in Milton. It's easy to find something to do.

For a big draw, speak to Colin Best. The Town and Council does not lack vision. There are some great opportunities and vision, particularly associated with development of one of the largest urban parks in Canada. It does not happen overnight though but it will be exciting. The land for it was secured last year if I recall what I read the big picture planning starts this year.


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Forests have not been cut down. There are a plethora of woodlots preserved throughout Milton. The trees that were cut down were scrub trees. There are tons of great parks in the new area. It's easy to get around. The trails are excellent (for the most part). I don't leave town for regular entertainment. I have no need to. I can find something locally practically every weekend. Of course you are free to voice your opinion. But I strongly disagree. I think the council has focused on providing the services locals have demanded in terms if parks and recreation - something that has not been easy given the rapid rate if growth. That is something none of the other communities have had to deal with. That requires prioritization and planning. Not easy to do with the dramatic rate of growth.


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There are also at least 3 independent coffee houses in town. Coffee Culture, Hawthorne Cafe (AWESOME!), and the one in the Mall. There are a ton of great non-chain businesses if you look closely at those strip malls.


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And that "overpriced" bowling alley is offering kids 2 games free all summer. I've been there a number of times, their party rate is competitive, staff is fantastic, the kids live the Playdium Lite area. They are great corporate citizens as well, supporting many fundraisers and groups. I'll support a local business like that over driving 30 minutes + out of town. I know I'm certainly not the only one who would do the same.


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On another note, but related - particularly for Marguarita Maude - the Community Services Draft Master Plan Update is out and available for comment. Given your concerns it's worth taking a read through and providing input. That's active democracy and how to make your voice heard. There's a survey to fill in once you've read it.

http://www.milton.ca/en/play/resources/ ... r_Plan.pdf

http://www.milton.ca/en/play/masterplans.asp


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Thank you Kim. You are a great defender of Milton. Marguarita Maude should listen to what you are telling her.


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