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I agree with you. See my posting under the Power Plant issue. It is not too late to fight this one too everyone. We can do a lot with e-mail. It is not necessarily a done deal either. Yes, we do need hydro, but plants do not have to be located in our backyards!!They can be in industrial areas far from residential locations, and the power arrives via power lines, as is done now. This new plant is only going to be added to the overall grid anyhow, and wont just be for us in this area.

I for one can't understand, why, when we rely on natural gas to heat our homes, the Ontario Goverment is going to squander this precious resouce on making hydro, when there are more suitable alternatives that are more environmentally friendly?? Very short-sighted planning, in my view. There is after all, only a finite amount of natural gas available. There is not an unlimited supply!! It will not last forever, which I am sure we all know. If we use it up this way, burning it in a power plant, there eventually will be a shortage and it will become very costly to heat homes in the future.

I say if you dont like it, move! That's what I'll do if I find the fumes from the plant are worse than all the cars.

Sure, move the problem to Mississauga and let them deal with it....haha (sigh)

residents, we should all demand answers to the very good questions asked,
we should be very concerned about green house gases and being downwind from the plant...our health and saftey......goodluck...and our voices will be heard

Hear Hear Gillian!

Come to think of it, 401/407 is just a few km's further than the proposed site so how does that solve the problem? Wind blows the right way doesn't make a difference, what do others think?

Can someone give me some firm stats from reputable people/organizations that a natural gas plant will pollute? Cause I thought natural gas was a clean energy source? This way I can be more informed and not make incorrect statements. Thanks.

We should be able to have a conversation on this fourm without it turning into name calling. People have the right to their own opinions, whether it be low income housing, power plants etc.

Democracy and free speech is about being able to say whats on your mind and also (the most forgotten part) is to allow others to state their opinions as well.

Rollie is doing what he can to raise awareness of potential problems our town will face with the construction of a power plant. One of the potentials was in Milton, and the OPG made their choice of the Trans Canada proposal.

We in Milton and the surrounding areas have to look at the impact of those decisions on our town. Its the same thing with the low income housing (recently locked thread...dont want to open up more cans of worms) ... Some people like the idea and some dont. I do have concerns where they are going due to traffic issues. Not everyone who rents an apartment is a low life, but even more cars on our roads does present safety issues.

Its always been fun on this forum debating issues...especially during the last municipal campaign but to see it denegrated to "youre a jack***" is not lively debate.

How bout that Superbowl eh?

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Rollie...please accept my thanks for all the effort you have put in to date. In my opinion, Milton, would have changed forever if Pristine Power went ahead.

I am still very concerned about the trans-Canada power plant. I am willing to support and have taken time to express my concerns to the parties stated in you post. Please continue to send updates both here and to my email.

Thanks again....

Well said Mr. Cluett, I admit I was a little harsh but I never resorted to personal insults or name calling and I always try to put a smiley face or haha at the end just to let people know I'm not fuming about it at my end, just trying to speak my opinion. I think I'll have to walk away for a bit before I post a reply as I get passionate about issues sometimes. However, since we're on this topic, would anyone be able/willing to find some stats that support a natural gas plant as being really bad for us? I'll look myself cause I'm still confused as I've been told that it's clean as well. Thanks all.

Good rant new....some valid questions you raise....don't get me started on the government...haha.....I'm still hoping to see some posts about stats that show the con side of a nautural gas pipeline, so far I haven't found anything but I haven't been doing deep research yet or are looking in the wrong spots. How about wind power instead? I've heard some heated debate over that one too....

Well everybody who are not so new to Milton already have enough time to express their opinion.

In general it is very simple.
Some people say it is no to NIMBY, it is so bad.
Another think different:
Why it has to be in MBY if density of Ontario population is very different and here is plenty of land to rebuild those power generation stations some there up north of Ontario? If I’m not mistaken liberals of Ontario did close some remote generation station for the reason of clean air and in the effort to build more stations right in GTA.
Why we have to have toxic waste destroying plant right in GTA instead of moving it out to remote areas.
Why nobody in Ottawa is listening of the province initiative to bring the power from Quebec and another provinces?

Do you know how this modern clean energy generation stations work? I mean you have to be an expert to say no to NIMBY.

The only thing I know is how they manage it at some gas electro generating stations in Canada. They do mix their fumes with fresh air. This is how they are getting low polluting results.

Building of waste regeneration and power stations in high density areas is simple convenience for authorities and simple stupidity of authorities for local residents.

So you know how much your house price was increased over 18 moths. Good for you.
Do you know how shorter your live probably is going to be while you are will be snorkeling all this possibly new to Milton pollution crap

They don't know for sure.
But they don’t really care even. Because if they will be still reelected, nobody will go personally after them if here is any health issues. They will say Oops and retire somewhere in Florida.

- Rollie should care about the value of his property the same as we should. I believe his motivations are deeper that that however.

- $75 k in 18 months is exceptional!!

- We do need alternative power sources but Ontario is BIG enough to build these away from major population and in a Biosphere.

- As for the 401 pollution...it is already there + there are highways all around us. Too bad but need to live with it as it was there when I moved to Milton. Could not get away from highways unless I move several hundred miles north. I would prefer not to add to the toxic mess with a power plant in the neighbourhood.

Greg, just wanted to rebut you a little. There is a cost associated with power transmission, but in actually building transmission lines, as well as loss of power over the transmission distance. So the farther away we put the power the more environmental impact it has. As it stands Milton uses more power then it produces.

So if we choose to reject every power station in Milton, then we force our neighbors to suffer the presence of the power generation. We also force the environment to incur the cost of that transmission.

We as a city will need to house our own power, be it clean natural gas, or an alternative. As it stands the only other viable clean power for Milton is nuclear, or waste-to-fuel. As we are not at an appropriate latitude for solar, an effective location for wind, nor have convenient access to hydro electric.

Of those, of course 2 still cause CO2 and other green house gases, and the other produces waste that need be stored.

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So you choose between less for transmission bill and more for asthma treatment.