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When does Gary Carr get fined?
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Author:  B&T402 [ Wed Nov 05, 2014 7:14 pm ]
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I'm thinking these "fines for leaving signs up" are either non-existent, or very small.
Maybe the fine is expenseable - he'll just make us pay for it. .
Author:  bremer [ Wed Nov 05, 2014 7:19 pm ]
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Way to go Pete. Just for that, we're getting another red light camera.
Author:  Fred D [ Thu Nov 06, 2014 10:52 am ]
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Apparently we only have one by-law officer, and these things are handled on a complaint basis only.

I see a temporary opportunity to hire a part time 3 month contract to attack these things the same way the parking guy does (all signs and bylaw infractions) -- and see what income is generated as a result. (Hey it's friday night and there are open house signs out for the weekend? Hey great, I can get interlocking done, but that is actually hanging from the stop sign and is AS BIG AS the stop sign... etc etc..). There is a 3-month study that would actually generate some revenue! IF it breaks even or makes money, great. If it runs slightly in the red, that's ok too as things are cleaned up. If it is a money pit, then shut it down.

People might actually start following the rules a little more :)
Author:  OneWiredMouse [ Thu Nov 06, 2014 1:22 pm ]
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The town should require all candidates to put a $5000 deposit down prior to erecting any signs. If any signs are still up after the takedown window the deposit is not returned.
Author:  Fred D [ Thu Nov 06, 2014 1:24 pm ]
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Another great idea. Some may call it undemocratic as it would be a barrier for entry, so drop it to $1000 and I agree wholeheartedly.
Author:  Kyle and Jay [ Thu Nov 06, 2014 1:36 pm ]
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Losers will start putting up signs of other people to cost them money.
Author:  LolaBee [ Thu Nov 06, 2014 2:18 pm ]
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File under not shocking: Deol sign still at Market and Martin and Steeles and Martin. There's a Boughton sign on Steeles as well.

Rick or Zeeshan, what are the fines?
Author:  dillon [ Thu Nov 06, 2014 3:35 pm ]
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File under prediction: you'll get a response from Rick, but not from Zeeshan.
Author:  dillon [ Thu Nov 06, 2014 3:36 pm ]
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Author:  Rick Di Lorenzo [ Thu Nov 06, 2014 4:29 pm ]
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LolaBee wrote:
File under not shocking: Deol sign still at Market and Martin and Steeles and Martin. There's a Boughton sign on Steeles as well.

Rick or Zeeshan, what are the fines?
The By-Law to regulate election signs (011-2013) requires every owner to remove his/her election signs within 72 hours immediately following the election. The By-Law also includes a section for the Town to recover the cost for the removal of election signs placed on public property. The User Fee By-Law for Sign Removal has a per unit cost of $58.00.

So fine is $58 per sign...
Author:  bremer [ Thu Nov 06, 2014 4:49 pm ]
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$58 bucks?

Is there any fine in existence for Joe Public that’s under $200 anymore? This sounds like something somebody would get outraged about on AM radio.

Is there at least a victims surcharge applied on that fine?
Author:  Greenjp [ Thu Nov 06, 2014 4:57 pm ]
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Can I pick-up these signs and collect the $58?
Author:  Wyl [ Thu Nov 06, 2014 5:34 pm ]
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Fred D wrote:
Another great idea. Some may call it undemocratic as it would be a barrier for entry, so drop it to $1000 and I agree wholeheartedly.



you can run all you want, just have to pay to put signs up..... Lets say $100 deposit per sign on public property.
Author:  shawnrk1 [ Fri Nov 07, 2014 4:24 pm ]
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bremer wrote:
$58 bucks?

Is there any fine in existence for Joe Public that’s under $200 anymore? This sounds like something somebody would get outraged about on AM radio.

Is there at least a victims surcharge applied on that fine?


Most bylaw fines Joe Public gets are sub-$200
Other than parking infractions or not maintaining property what else would a homeowner do wrong?

The mandatory victim surcharge was declared unconstitutional way back
You a tad behind the times, you can actually fight it even on a guilty plea now

http://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-new ... -surcharge
Author:  bremer [ Fri Nov 07, 2014 4:37 pm ]
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I did not know this. Justice! Screw you victims!
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