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Author:  Rosewood143L [ Wed Oct 10, 2007 8:46 am ]
Post subject:  HE Cogeco vs. Bell
What is everyone going with?

We need HDTV, phone and internet.

I've called both places to get quotes. I'm leaning towards cogeco due to pricing, but I've heard to go with bell.
Author:  gcpeart [ Wed Oct 10, 2007 9:41 am ]
Post subject: 
Bittorrent...

Watch what you want, when you want, in HD.

Pickup a Mac mini and plug it into your shiney hdtv.

And decouple yourself from programing schedules, and crap filler.

Pick up an HDDVD or BluRay for your movies.

Buck the trend,

Fight the power,

Move to a commune ;)

Okay seriously over zealous here, but my wife and I cut cable 2 years ago, and haven't looked back. We buy our TV series on DVD and spend less per year then we would on an expensive cable package. If we don't like something we resell it or trade it in.

If it is something new we rent it, or download a few episodes to try it out.

We do own an HDDVD player and content is slowing rolling out for it, like Heroes, and a lot of the Discovery HD stuff like Planet Earth (I'm still wiping drool off the screen after that one, it's just so shiny.)

Now what we don't do is sit down, turn the TV on, and drain hours away watching "whatever is on."

Now we use that time for all sorts of more interactive things, reading, talking, playing games, getting out doors etc.

I realize that my response doesn't fit the question of bell vs cogeco, but I still recommend trying it out.
Author:  Christine&Mike [ Wed Oct 10, 2007 2:03 pm ]
Post subject: 
Anthony wrote:
I don't have cable, since we don't watch enough TV to make it worthwhile. Like gcpeart we download stuff we want to watch in HD and use the PS3 to watch it.

I do use Cogeco for telephone and Internet and have been very happy with both. If you tend to download using Bittorrent you will find that Cogeco does not do traffic shaping like Rogers does, so your downloads will be reasonably fast, or as fast as they can be. Not sure about Bell, never been a big fan of them as a company so I tend to avoid them.

Anthony


Good to hear. :twisted: :wink:

I'll be going Cogeco for all my services too when we move, not a fan of Bell.

- Mike
Author:  Rosewood143L [ Wed Oct 10, 2007 3:22 pm ]
Post subject: 
So my fiance is really big into sports.. so he bought an HDTV for our new house. So we're debating whether to go with Cogeco or not...

I think Bell offers more for sports
Author:  Rosewood143L [ Wed Oct 10, 2007 3:47 pm ]
Post subject: 
Thanks for all your inout :)
Author:  carisma [ Wed Oct 10, 2007 5:41 pm ]
Post subject: 
Cogeco has a sports pack comparable to Bell. We have the Cogeco bundle (phone, internet, cable). We chose it because:

1.) I REALLY REALLY don't like Bell (long story)
2.) The Cogeco bundle was cheaper
3.) The internet is 3 times faster
4.) There are things I like about satellite, but I don't like the aesthetics of the dish against the side of my house.
5.) Did I mention I REALLY REALLY don't like Bell :)


WOW You don't like Bell that much huh :lol:
Author:  gcpeart [ Thu Oct 11, 2007 7:18 am ]
Post subject: 
Ol Skool wrote:
gcpeart wrote:
Bittorrent...

Watch what you want, when you want, in HD.

Pickup a Mac mini and plug it into your shiney hdtv.

And decouple yourself from programing schedules, and crap filler.

Pick up an HDDVD or BluRay for your movies.

Buck the trend,

Fight the power,

Move to a commune ;)

Okay seriously over zealous here, but my wife and I cut cable 2 years ago, and haven't looked back. We buy our TV series on DVD and spend less per year then we would on an expensive cable package. If we don't like something we resell it or trade it in.

If it is something new we rent it, or download a few episodes to try it out.

We do own an HDDVD player and content is slowing rolling out for it, like Heroes, and a lot of the Discovery HD stuff like Planet Earth (I'm still wiping drool off the screen after that one, it's just so shiny.)

Now what we don't do is sit down, turn the TV on, and drain hours away watching "whatever is on."

Now we use that time for all sorts of more interactive things, reading, talking, playing games, getting out doors etc.

I realize that my response doesn't fit the question of bell vs cogeco, but I still recommend trying it out.


Though I agree network television is littered with a lot of crap these days. If you're into sports, it's kind of lame to TiVo it or watch it after the fact. For that reason alone I couldn't give up cable.


This is why we really need allacart tv services, where you really pick and pay for only what you want. Forcing on us that 02-60+ zone and saying thou must bundle your content is monopolistic.
Author:  gcpeart [ Thu Oct 11, 2007 10:16 am ]
Post subject: 
AussieinMilton wrote:
Say hello to the CRTC.


The CRTC is just taking a page from the FCC.
Author:  gcpeart [ Thu Oct 11, 2007 10:20 am ]
Post subject: 
AussieinMilton wrote:
gcpeart wrote:
AussieinMilton wrote:
Say hello to the CRTC.


The CRTC is just taking a page from the FCC.


Yes, although our Canadian content rules here differ somewhat to what the Americans have.


True, but those rules could be adapted and changed while your already tweaking the system if you opened it up to alla carte content. I just won't return to cable in its present state.
Author:  gcpeart [ Thu Oct 11, 2007 10:32 am ]
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AussieinMilton wrote:
That simply won't happen. The cable tv providers want to control what we watch, to ensure they maximise their revenues. Give people an option, and they'll do what they want. Hence why the CRTC likes to say they're protecting us, and Canadian culture.


That may be the current state, and I will admit I am in the minority, my state and opinion are far from unique, and as iptv offerings improve, people like me will increase.

Cable companies will need the flexibility from the CRTC or else they will lose revenue to the players who compete in the online market place

I don't want grass roots changes, I want good old fashion capitalism driven changes, and they will happen in good time, or the cable companies will sink.
Author:  Kevin&Amanda [ Thu Oct 11, 2007 1:12 pm ]
Post subject: 
Commercials are killing TV for me. I know without them my favourite shows wouldn't be able to stay on the air, but with the amount of product placement in TV shows now a days, it's like I'm watching an hour of commercials with 40 minutes of it being entertaining and not the same 30 spots over and over again. (side note: what's with every single character in a TV show using a Mac? That's fiction if I ever saw it!)

Also, having satellite radio has also spoiled me. I can't listen to regular radio at all now.

Kevin.
Author:  gcpeart [ Thu Oct 11, 2007 1:38 pm ]
Post subject: 
Kevin&Amanda wrote:
Commercials are killing TV for me. I know without them my favourite shows wouldn't be able to stay on the air, but with the amount of product placement in TV shows now a days, it's like I'm watching an hour of commercials with 40 minutes of it being entertaining and not the same 30 spots over and over again. (side note: what's with every single character in a TV show using a Mac? That's fiction if I ever saw it!)

Also, having satellite radio has also spoiled me. I can't listen to regular radio at all now.

Kevin.


They use mac's because they are better, duh...


-----
Member of the Honourable Order of Mac Operators since Feb. 07
Author:  Christine&Mike [ Thu Oct 11, 2007 1:49 pm ]
Post subject: 
Kevin&Amanda wrote:
Commercials are killing TV for me. I know without them my favourite shows wouldn't be able to stay on the air, but with the amount of product placement in TV shows now a days, it's like I'm watching an hour of commercials with 40 minutes of it being entertaining and not the same 30 spots over and over again. (side note: what's with every single character in a TV show using a Mac? That's fiction if I ever saw it!)

Also, having satellite radio has also spoiled me. I can't listen to regular radio at all now.

Kevin.


You've now opened a can of worms :lol:.

I use both equally at home and at work, but it's always fun listening to these debates. Here's a great article I read yesterday:

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1 ... 639,00.asp
Author:  gcpeart [ Thu Oct 11, 2007 2:03 pm ]
Post subject: 
Christine&Mike wrote:
Kevin&Amanda wrote:
Commercials are killing TV for me. I know without them my favourite shows wouldn't be able to stay on the air, but with the amount of product placement in TV shows now a days, it's like I'm watching an hour of commercials with 40 minutes of it being entertaining and not the same 30 spots over and over again. (side note: what's with every single character in a TV show using a Mac? That's fiction if I ever saw it!)

Also, having satellite radio has also spoiled me. I can't listen to regular radio at all now.

Kevin.


You've now opened a can of worms :lol:.

I use both equally at home and at work, but it's always fun listening to these debates. Here's a great article I read yesterday:

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1 ... 639,00.asp


One very real rebuttal to that post, is that I can't use a Zune on my damn mac, I want one, a brown one, or a halo 3 one. Especially after Apple screwed the pooch with that iTouch product.
Author:  gcpeart [ Thu Oct 11, 2007 2:55 pm ]
Post subject: 
TechMonkey wrote:
gcpeart wrote:
One very real rebuttal to that post, is that I can't use a Zune on my damn mac, I want one, a brown one, or a halo 3 one. Especially after Apple screwed the pooch with that iTouch product.

Okay, now you've opened a can of worms. :wink:

Just what do you think is wrong with the iPod touch?


*No bluetooth
*Crippled Calander
*Crippled Contact Manager
*Crippled Storage Capacity for a Video Enabled Device
*Price not index against Canadian Dollar (no paid for 3 months ago on this product)
*No WiFi (or bluetooth see first bullet) sinking
*No video in wifi DL store.

The device is now as expensive as an iphone, and a whole lot worse. Any many of the reasons it was worse (crippled software) were completely unnecessary when less crippled version exist for iphone.

After the press conference I was soooooo ready to buy one I sold my iPod and preordered it like a good fanboi. After the reviews and a cold shower I cancelled my order. Now if Zune had a mac client I would have bought it as it is comperably featured and priced with a iPod Classic, but does do wifi sinking and radio. But it doesn't so like a good fanboi I bought an iPod phatty. (also priced poorly against the USD, but I didn't much feel like driving to buffalo to buy it when I had no music to listen to in the car ;P
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