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Kayosaki defines middle class, wealthy and rich in his Book "Rich dad, poor dad" extremely well. Income does not mean that person is well off. It’s not about how much you make, it’s about how much you keep. If you live of one income stream, you can become poor as fast as this stream will be cut off. True wealthy and rich individuals have assets that create residual income. Rich people don't have to work to sustain their lifestyle and prosper. If you ever been in Million dollar club, they never ask:" how much do you make" they always say:"how much do you worth". No one knows how much exactly Warren Buffet makes but we all know that he worth 60 billion dollars.

So the point is, many people with 50K can be much better off then someone with 200K a year.

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:) I was waiting for some comments like this. My friend, now this is my punch line. I DON'T BELONG TO MLM, so I HAVE NOTHING TO BENEFIT FROM BY GIVING YOU THIS ADVICE. I just showed people the way to save tax money.
Now the reason why I don't belong, is because I'm too busy with my own business, and I benefit from tax deductions already. But if I was not that busy, I would definately personaly join it myself to try it out. If you don't have time for something don't bother.

My family buys juice for my grandmother, because we have done some reasearch and she feels better, so its all we care about.

Now, hold off your ignorance for someone else. Plus look for a definition of Pyramid scheme and Network Marketing. After you understand both models you will be able to distinguish good business from bad. I told you guys, I do my research, so before you throw some comments please spend some time to educate yourself. If you known me personally, you would not say anything like this either, especially if you known how many people I helped already out of my own pocket.


I wish you a great weekend. :D

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Also, I understand that every one of us has a right to own opinion. So, for the benefit of doubt to keep it fair. If you can prove and provide valid support for your statement that I was misleading people and my strategy won’t work, and that the business that I was doing research upon is a Pyramid Scheme. (note, I never made a statement that it was a miracle cure or that I would like to sign you up to anything) I will apologize to everyone who been mislead by my statements, and will pay for a night out, MiltonNew2007 and his/her significant other at South 202 restaurant downtown Milton. I chose South 202 because it one of the upscale and great places in Milton so it will worth it.
Now, so you can start ripping something apart. The company name is Xango, and the juice name is simply Xango juice. Their new product line is Glimpse, apparently truly toxin free cosmetic product. The reason why I was not saying the name is because I was simply not promoting anything. People can chose whatever network business they want, all I was offering just an idea how to utilize business loss to offset income tax.
So, once you are ready to provide me with valid tax forms proving me wrong and official claim supporting your statement, which will show that the company is a Pyramid Scheme. Please, contact me and I will be more then glad to treat you for a dinner, because I would learn something new. And, please avoid sending me someone else’s comments on the other forums.
So go get them champ :)

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If you are interested in giving me some of your hard earned money, give me a shout, I’m in Milton, stop by one afternoon I’ll make you some good green tea that we buy from Russian store and my dad can show you his chart.


Sure thing buddy, sure thing.


Ha-ha, I just noticed how you changed my post. Really funny, it was a good one. :lol:

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 4:46 pm 
Dalton is a joke!

All he does is spend our hard earned money and then tax us to death to make up for his utter stupidity!

Get rid of him (by election of course) before the HST comes into effect. Let us protest and get a new government elected!

He knows he is on the way out so he approving everything to make his "buddies" happy so he will be taken care of when he is out of the government....you scratch mine ...etc.!


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 11:11 pm 
Getting rid of Dalton before the HST comes into effect will accomplish nothing. I believe the others leader's hands are tied too as Ottawa gave Ontario a lot of money to blend the taxes and in doing so it can not be repealed (or at least till 2012 if I remember right ). Correct me if I'm wrong of course.


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Ok. I appreciate your attempt to find some useful information. It was a good way to show some respect to each other without throwing useless accusations.
As for the first link, I would like to point you towards comments that some people made about the product just below the article. It seems to work for them regardless of what the guy was saying. The article itself was totally negative, person who wrote it, had some bad experience with MLM. Secondly, his ignorance is also shown through lack of knowledge of mangosteen. All antioxidants contained within a shell of the fruit, and this shell is hard and bitter, that’s why they mix with other berries.
Wiki is also a weak argument, because it is a library of pretty much independent thoughts provided and added by random people. In university or college you cannot use wiki for research because it does not contains 100% valid data.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia
The third article intrigued me, and I will do more research on my behalf, but I believe xango did receive a green label as naturally safe product. I don’t believe it to be a drug myself, but one of the great supplements to build the immune system.

Again, I did not promote a miracle cure. Although, I would not listen too much, of what FDA has to say, because if you want to talk about SCAM, they are probably the biggest one out there. There are tons of stories when they were shutting some smaller operations down just to save constant income stream for big corporations.
What I really reflect upon, is European market, they do much proper research and only allow products that fall under their guidelines. Xango made it to European market, when many North American products that Canadians consume, cannot even be sold in Europe.
The point remains the same.
1) You accused me in scamming people and getting their hard earned money and as you can probably see yourself, you were wrong.
2) Xango is not a Pyramid Scheme. You may question their products, but their company structure and payout system is far away from Pyramid Scheme.
3) Joining MLM marketing allows people to save on taxes by creating business loss within first 5 years of starting a business.

I would like to quote a book that I’m reading right now by John Templeton. I strongly recommend everyone to read, to make this world a better place.
“We tend to find what we look for: good or evil, problems or solutions”

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Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 9:37 pm Post subject: Stop crying about what If!!

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It seems to me that you can cry all you want about what is happening with the 2 governments! It will not make one bit of effect. You can vote with your feet at the next general election and decide which government you want to lead you, whether it is Conservative or Liberal Party, the Labour party or Green Party will not get into power. Writing a whole list of expenses what is or will be going up does not matter until it starts to really hit you in the pocket book. Folks you need to stand back and and look at your own situation, how can I lower my taxes. You wont be able to do that because you are an employee!! Dmitri gave you an idea and all you did was knock him on the idea and on the product. Start your own business, if you have a job stop working overtime and put the effort in yourself. Last year we saw just a glimse of what is coming next. Taxes are going up, service fees are going to continue to go up and on and on and on! Business owners have an advantage they can write off expenses to earn income, why you ask because they take the risk! Networking marking is an idea not all are equal, do your research and understand the business



Good idea. I was an independant contractor for years and a few years ago I switched to f/t employment. Let me tell you - F/T employees get screwed tax wise big time!

I think people should do whatever is legally allowed to lower their taxes, to generate extra income, shelter income, etc.

Here's some ideas:

- Online business
Buy & sell on ebay, amazon, etc. Make the business legit i.e charge the applicable taxes, declare everything.

- Renovation business
If you're good at fixing things around the house, you could start doing the same for others.

- Consulting/Professional business
If you're an expert in your field - i.e.
Accounting - Do people's tax returns
Computers - Offer to fix computer problems, install Windows 7, etc.
Home decor - Know how to decorate, give people advise on decorating
Kids books - Write kids books and sell to parents in the neighbourhood, donate some of the proceeds to charity or to the school.

- Labour business
Landscaping - Cut lawns, weed gardens, fertilize grass, plant trees/shurbs, setup watering systems, etc.
Outdoor furniture - Handy with wood? Build outdoor furniture and sell it to the community.
Weather/House - Shovel snow, salt driveways, sidewalks, porches, sand and paint porches, replace old wood with new wood, etc.
House cleaning - Clean houses, organize houses

I just thought of these now - didn't copy from any website.


It will left no time for fishing. :shock:
Holly crappie, I could register fishing guide business and every time my mom-in-law is fishing with me I’ll write it off in taxes. :idea:


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I think you are sick of all government.

CRTC is a federal issue. Maybe you are sick of Dalton, which is fine...but at least don't hide behind a post that is "time for government change" when you can't distinguish between the responsiblities of the different levels of government.

Can I assume that you are equally unhappy with "Super Steve"? Maybe Iggy or the 'stach' would resolve your federal issues. But I doubt you would ever have the nerve to leave your Conservative voting tradition.




The CRTC is the responsibility of the Industry Minister, Tony Clement. I am sick and tired of the commission under his belt that Bell, Rogers, Cogeco, Telus are allowed to screw customers by throttling and invoking UBB. I am a very heavy Internet user - not because I download everything, but because I am very involved in watching legit tv shows, work remotely, and gather information. If wholesale DSL gets UBB because of Bell - there will be literally no more unlimited or reasonable limit on Internet service for a fair price.



Get DirecTv and put up an HD antenna and forget about the CRTC forever.


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First of all, FDA claim was that Xango Juice is not a drug. If you will go to Xango Website, each time they make a statement about any product you will find a disclaimer at the bottom of the page:"These statements have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. This product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure or prevent any disease" So no one misleads anyone, it’s all available online.
I guess you did not realized, that Wikipedia is an open source tool, and everyone can add and improve it. I'm not saying it is wrong, I'm just saying it could be misleading or skewed.
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You have shown me nothing that would convince me otherwise

I clearly told you that I don’t belong to MLM, because I run my successful business already, and I suggested people one of the simplest ways to offset taxes.
Now, I see that you did not even make an effort to distinguish Multi-Level-Marketing structure and Pyramid Scheme.
I will provide a link to make it easier for you:
http://www.wikihow.com/Distinguish-Betw ... -Marketing

As, for tax question, I'm glad I can help people to learn something new about our own tax system.

To make it clear, home expense must be deducted only from business income. Other expenses, like (cell phone, car, gas, insurance, meals, etc) are all deductable from your general income. (There are rules, of course, that must apply to make it legal, which I won’t mention in this post)
Anyways, follow this link. http://canadianfinanceblog.com/2009/03/ ... penses.htm
In case if you still have doubts about our tax system, come to my office, I will open Profile http://profile.intuit.ca/professional-t ... ftware.jsp which cost over a thousand bucks and you can input numbers yourself. This should end this argument.
I heard so many people saying:”Stock market is bad” or “Real Estate is bad”. That’s because they either never done it themselves and just following someone else’s advice who probably never done it either, and had no knowledge.
I hope it was enough info and I was able to change your points of views.

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Get DirecTv and put up an HD antenna and forget about the CRTC forever.

:roll:
Is it legal to get DirectTV in Canada. :?:


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It will left no time for fishing. :shock:
Holly crappie, I could register fishing guide business and every time my mom-in-law is fishing with me I’ll write it off in taxes. :idea:


In fact you can start a Fishing Blog and consider yourself self employed.
(of course if you will make it a source of advertising)

http://canadianfinanceblog.com/2009/03/ ... siness.htm

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kf095 wrote:
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Get DirecTv and put up an HD antenna and forget about the CRTC forever.

:roll:
Is it legal to get DirectTV in Canada. :?:


Appearantly its not, according to the CRTC...the folks who tell us what we are allowed to watch and control the costs behind the whole monopoly.

But if you want directv, there are ways of getting it, and once you are subscribed, you'll never turn back


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I did, actually. I don’t like to deal with criminals.


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I did, actually. I don’t like to deal with criminals.


sorry, didn't get what you're saying, who are the criminals?


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