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The flyers aren't bothering me....they are bothering you. You should take the professional approach and get a person on the phone who would be responsible for their marketing strategy and have a discussion with them. Telling their answering service or a front office employee is not the right route to take.

I can see that your here just to bitch as from your more than 940 other posts in this forum your a lonely guy who has nothing better to do but complain about the little things in life. Take a step back think of the many options you have available to you. Since you haven't done that I will list them for you.

1. No solicitors sign on your front door.
2. Send a well written email or letter to them addressing your concerns.
3. Pick up the phone and talk maturely and professional to someone who is control to solve the problem.
4. Get in your car and visit their HO in Mississauga and have a face to face meeting.

From all your professional designitations I would assume that the above solutions would be a no brainer. But, I guess not.

I have said what I needed to say. Good luck!

We have done everything we are willing to do.

we have a no solicitors sign, we have called minmaxx on several occasions to have the flyers stopped, as have others and nothing has happened. The number of times they have been called, just from those on here should make the issue obvious. When I called them I made sure to give them the specific location.

as of now... NO RESULTS.

Why should a home owner have to FIGHT with a vendor to stop SPAMMING them.

In my last conversation with Minmaxx, they said they will send my in writing via email that they have confirmed delivery to stop to our specific residence.

P&A - When i asked about the rest of the street they said the residence would have to individually contact them to have their delivery of flyers stopped. Please keep in mind this the same BS i've received each and everytime we speak to them. We will see if this email confirmation they are sending me actually happens.

I encourage everyone else who is sick and tired of receiving their SPAM to call 416-264-1111 and hit 0 and let it ring, someone almost always answers and ask to be removed. I highly doubt they will keep their word, they haven't done so regarding previous requests, but we will wait and see what happens this week!

If they stick to what they say then this issue ends there.

Please see other post on General Board

I have multiple conflicts of interest so I've been hesitant to post to this thread.. My conflicts of interest are

(1) Azim sold our house for us in Mississauga back in 2005 (And we were happy with the price he sold it for)
(2) He's a sponsor on the forum
(3) He's one of my neighbours on Winter Cres and a friend

But saying that, I still wanted to mention...

I've been doing research on flyer distributions lately, and based on the prices I've been quoted it almost appears that people distributing flyers are getting paid at or below minimum wage. I mean really, if you do a big volume of houses, they rates I've been quotes, doing off the top of my head calculations really seems like $5 an hour. This is *not* in relation to MinMaxx, but just flyer distribution in general in Milton. I don't think the third-party flyer distributors are setup to exclude a specific house. They're more area-specific. But I haven't asked that question yet so could be mistaken.

I get a lot of other door hangers on my door besides just MinMaxx. MinMaxx is probably just the most aggressive advertiser, but there are others. I usually carry the flyers from the door straight to my recycling bin, glancing at each flyer for a couple seconds on the way.

Knocking at someone's home at 2 AM in the morning would cross a line with me. I can understand some people feel upset they are being spammed with advertising, but I don't think going to someone's house at 2 am in the morning to 'politely' talk to them is the right approach.

Everyone knows we love our home, and are never planning to move. But I do get real estate flyers from over a dozen agents, many who I know personally. It would make sense for them all to skip my house, but from a practical stand point I don't think the flyer distribution 'game' is setup that way to easily opt-out from door flyers. I just make sure I stay "green" and put them all in the recycling bin. I occasionally glance at them on the way to the bin.

p.s. once again I freely admit there's a 'conflict of interest' with my post on this thread. I'm not trying to debate the merits of flyer advertising, or one real estate agent over the other.

Rick,

Just to be clear, this is nothing personal against Azim. I made that clear when I spoke with him.

This issue is concerning privacy. He wants people to respect the privacy of his home, as all home owners would. All we ask is those who choose to opt out of being spammed should have their privacy and wishes respected as well.

The fact that he may lack control of this 3rd party distribution company is not our issue, that is his to deal with and mitigate. In the same manner as there are now controls (semi - effective) to prevent unwanted telemarketing.

Yes admittedly knocking on his door at 2am is an extreme measure. But it served to get their attention. Previous requests by us and others on this board were just brushed off or ignored.

Other extremes which are legal and probably far more effective would be organized peaceful demonstrations on Winter cres. , at Minmax open houses or their head office in Mississauga etc. No one wants to go to this extreme, but they are legal options.

We are looking into if any of the existing Milton By-Laws would provide resolution or if a complaint through RECO on ethical grounds would yield results. Those are options that can and are being explored.

At the end of the day respect is a two way street. If both sides respect the wishes of the other then there is no issue. Why should a home owner have to sit idly by and have their front porch (on a windy day their lawns and street) littered by material they don't want to receive. Is it such that as home owners we have no say in what comes to our door even when we have put up "no solicitor, no etc" signs and formally asked the company to stop delivery????

I have a question about how they calculate the number of days it takes to sell their houses... I just saw in the paper that they sold a house on Forbes Terrace in 11 days for 95% of list... I can't say for sure how long the For Sale sign was in front of that house, but it was WAY more than 11 days. The sale price was good so I'm sure the owner is happy because it was for sale for a REALLY long time under another Realtor (edit: I just remembered it was For Sale By Owner, not another realtor). Maybe they keep the signs up for a really long time after it's sold????

I'm sure a realtor can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think if a house is up for sale, let's just say the term is 60 days for example... if the listing is taken off MLS and then they put it up for sale again and it sells in 10 days or whatever it was, that is what they will advertise it sold in. A lot of times when a house doesn't sell, they will pull it off for a bit then relist to make it look like a fresh new listing and not one that's been sitting on the market for a long time, because that will obviously raise questions as to why it hasn't sold.

Fyi, 95% of list is nothing to brag about.

That's 20,000 off a 400k house.

Yah, you're right... but this $600K house was for sale for 1.5 years so I'm sure they're glad it's sold!!!

that home was sold in 5 months, not 11 days. It was re-listed at a lower price and sold in 11 days of the new price change. On a side note, I had a client wanting to put in an offer on that home but I was told by the brokerage (at 10:10pm) of another offer coming in at 10:30pm that night -that gave me 20 mins to consult with my clients, meet with them, get an offer togerther etc., which logistically was impossible. The home sold for waay under what my clients were going to offer!
Needless to say they were very disappointed and so would the home owner have been if they knew...


Cliff

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Cliff Barron
Selling in Milton for over 14 years!
Sutton Group - Summit Realty Inc. Brokerage
#1, 07-18 company wide!

cbarron@sutton.com
http://www.callcliff.ca
905-286-5888

MinnMaxx offers the low comission rates and I often wonder how people don't realize that you get what you pay for with certain things. I have a feeling because he makes less of a comission he needs to sell houses faster to make it worth it. If I were listing my house I would definitely go with a more reputable realtor. I think he totally underprices many of his houses (which is good if you are looking to buy, not sell) in order to sell faster. Also, I looked at a house last year that had been on the market for 6+ months and the price was reduced a number of times. When it finally did sell, in his flyer he said sold for 100% of asking in 3 days. If I was dealing with him I would wonder what else is he being so sneaky and dishonest about? It's not all about saving on the real estate fees.

When you are taking in 1% commission, the difference between 600K and 625K may be significant to the homeowner, but its only $250. Even a standard agent that takes the 2.5% its only $625.

You're right on the money. I just sold a house (conditionally) today. I had an offer of my own come in where I would have made far more commission but I knew the owners could do better with another offer so I actually talked them out of taking my offer.

Referrals and satisfied clients are the key in this biz...

Cliff

_________________
Cliff Barron
Selling in Milton for over 14 years!
Sutton Group - Summit Realty Inc. Brokerage
#1, 07-18 company wide!

cbarron@sutton.com
http://www.callcliff.ca
905-286-5888

We have never used MinMaxx, but he had a house listed that we were interested in purchasing last year. We decided to put in an offer, and our agent was to meet Azim and the sellers in the evening. We went to the house too, but stayed out in the car. Azim was almost an hour late for the meeting, came speeding down the quiet residential street (parking the wrong way on the street), and runs into the house. He comes back out in a hurry less than 5 minutes later. Our agent comes out and says Azim couldn't stay as he had another appointment! He was also rude to our agent, and wouldn't give the sellers the time of day either. We decided to continue looking for another house and there was noway that we would step foot into another MinMaxx house again. Our time and our agents time is just as valuable as his. We felt terrible for the poor sellers who lost a sale because of their inconsiderate agent.

Thanks for getting this topic back into a "positive" tone !!!

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