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Did you mean this kind of thing? I did saw it in some houses but not sure if this is an upgrade of default for some model. This recess makes a standard fridge stick into the wall instead of sticking out. Very good idea.

yes exactly that... i have seen it in pictures for plan 4 not sure if they are doing it for all plan 4s or what.

The problem with plan 4 fridge placement is the wall next to that is few inches out more than the other side where ovens are...

So if you get counter depth you are somewhat screwed as it looks good on the oven side but then door opening issues somewhat as the door wont swing all the way and also will hit the wall.

If you get standard depth then you are screwed again as it doenst look good on the oven side and the door will probably hit the wall again.

If your house has not been framed yet, you can talk to your builder about this. See if they can do something. If your house is already framed, then you have to choose one.

what did you end up doing?

Just to answer my own question i went and measured Plan4 models being framed and after drywall.

I am not sure when they do the cavity because all the plan 4s i saw the measurements were as follows for both chefs kitchen and non chefs kitchen.

Cavity Width = 71.5"
Fridge Side Wall Depth = 31"
Cabinet side (near the entrance from garage) Depth = 28"

So technically Full size would work, but cartier cabinets next to fridge don't come out all the way to 28" so the fridge would stick out and have few inches of its side visible.

Anyone have any pictures of the interior of the Elevation A? Or know the difference between them (excluding exterior). I notice a lot of you bought Elevation C. Is A larger inside?
Just bought an Elevation A, in phase 7 and are looking at interior finishes.

We also want to know how much it costs to get hardwood stairs?

Any info is appreciated!

Thanks in advance!

On my street there are quite a few plan 4's and there are 3 in a row, elevation A,F and D and all three are identical inside inregards to size and layout. The only difference in layout could be the 4th bedroom, move the laudry room to basement or the alternate kitchen, other than that they are roughly all the same inside.

The fourth bedroom's dimensions change depending on the facade.

Also all room's dimensions change slightly based on elevation.

you are correct, but they change slightly. What I meant was that when all 3 plan 4's were being built (the three different elevations side by side) I went in them all and they are roughly identical.

Thanks all! I own a Mattamy town home right now, and our neighbor (same plan, different elevation), all her rooms are slightly smaller (1-2 feet less in depth), so that was what I was wondering. It makes a difference when you are talking about kitchen storage, and smaller rooms to begin with... I figured with our detached it would be the same idea... just wasn't sure if Elevation A would be smaller or larger than C.

I guess we will just have to wait and see.


Did anyone upgrade to the hardwood stairs with the builder? Or have the upgrade costs for that?

Thanks again for the great response!

As for the stair case, we got all oak with the thickest pickets and railing and paid $1500, we also paid to change one knee wall to rail and pickets and paid $1200. We only had to change one knee wall because we changed the familyroom into a bedroom. We also paid the $100 charge to have square pickets instead of the traditional ones. Hope this helps!

+1

I think the rails maybe cheaper if you have 8' ceilings as the 9' ceiling it adds couple more steps on the 2nd floor.

Here were my upgrade costs recently:

ALL OAK R3C 1 5/16" $1389
Newell Square Upgrade $118
Victorian Newell post - each $617
Stain all staircase Paint n Stain $980

Rail & Picket in lieu of kneewall (per side) $1159

Thank you! It certainly gives us a good idea of the average cost. Definately going to do this with the builder, as after I think an oak staircase will run us about $3000+

yes you are correct, what I paid was for 9 foot ceilings

I have a plan 4 elevation A and as far as I know it is identical to the other elevations.