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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 2:33 pm 
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It was one of those asses you can picture spreading. Sorry ladies, TMI, but it was for the gents.



Mmmmmm. This forum needs more topics like this! Maybe a special section dedicated to just yoga pants. Like GIYP, but local talent. Thanks 9891, I salute you sir.

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Where the whole argument falls apart in in the fact that you're not comparing the same thing.


I disagree with your comment. I'm a proud Canadian and if you think we have no culture here perhaps you've spent too much time abroad to enjoy all the wonders Canada has to offer.


We have a very young undefined culture that is in flux. Things that have been invented / installed within the last century are bound to change just by the nature of the beast, by contrast and what I talk of in the original post is well ... the rest of the world who have socks older than Canada.

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Canada is a new country that doesn't have a millennia + of culture.


It may not have been called Canada but the country didn't just fall out of the sky close to two centuries ago. The natives were here well before the white man ever stumbled onto the content. Allegedly Vikings also visited the east coast well before Columbus set sail.


Yes, I proudly celebrate Thanksgiving every year ... in the clean pure form as a celebration of the native culture ... not the raping of the native people, their land or anything like that. I also celebrate the American Thanksgiving, but that's mainly because I like pilgrams.

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We are a boring vast country with no identity.


Boring? Clearly you missed the excitment of the Vancouver Olympics or a Game 7 of a Stanley Cup Final. I know what you're going to say, US based teams have won the cup for the last 19 years. If you were to say that I would remind you that hockey is Canadian and the Cup was donated and named after an English Lord, as close as Canada came to having its own policitical body in place at the time.


Where to start ... Olympics are vast waste of resouces that amount to a pissing contest between countries and a corporate shill that governments use to force though public works developemnts that should be done anyway.

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Boring? Clearly you've never been to see the mountians in Banff, majestic and definately not boring. Have you ever walked down Rue St. Catherines Street in Montreal on a Saturday afternoon in the summer? With all the hub bub going on it is far from boring.


Been to Banff, pretty sure, tourist trap, you bet. Rue St. Catherines, I lived in Montreal and worked on the corner of St. Catherines and Sherbrooke. Side note, the other thread that talks about the Milton downtown festival, Milton should model the street festivals on Montreal's Ave Mont Royal.

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No identity? You said you were a traveller. Have you ever sewn a Canadian flag patch to your backpack. If you have I'll bet you were recognized as Canadian around the globe by people from all walks of life.


Not a backpacker I'm afraid. I suppose if I had been, the differenciation of not being Americian would be welcome, I'll give you that.

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No identity? Although it has changed in over the past decade how is it we are recognized all throughout the world as a peacekeeping nation?


I lived overseas in Europe for years and then the Middle East, not once did anyone ever talk to me about the peacekeeping force that is Canada. I think the most I ever heard was that "ohh ... a very nice country, very polite people." Outside of Canada we're not even known for having good coffee or beer. (we only do in comparison to USA I'm afraid)

Ahh I forgot, I was asked if I was a lumberjack once while in England ... 100% serious.

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Telling people to adapt to a embrace a weak/non-existent culture is impossible and setting people up for immediate failure.


Isn't that a huge part of the problem, we don't tell people to adapt. We accomodate instead of insist that our way of life adopted by all new comers, at least in Ontario. Perhaps we should be more like our freres et soeurs in Quebec and make our culture a priority by insisting it be preserved.


I do agree in part, but Quebec has a much more defined culture, like a little country village in France that got stuck in time from a language and food perspective. Define being an Ontarioian. It's not possible. We could get into an awesome 'Milton Mom's' style debate on the merits of saying merry christmas being a defined cultural feature or as they would say there 'why are those immigrants telling me that I can't say merry crhistmas!'.

Or just skip to the end of the protracted arguement and get to the result: Immigrants aren't the ones saying don't say 'merry christmas' it's the moron politically correct people (read fat white middle aged politicians) trying to make things just cheery for everyone, combined with corporations who ... if you can believe it ... don't actually want to exclude anyone as they know Jews and Muslims also buy sh*t too as they often have holidays at the same time of year! And so do Athiests like me by the way.

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Why are you stuck here? You're an adult aren't you? If you don't like it here move.


Life is a bitch sometimes isn't it.

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Or perhaps you're just some 16 year old kid whos idea of travel is the time your parents took you to Disney World.


OMG like you totes got it! :lol:


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It really upsets me when people take a wholesome / family oriented forum and turn it into trash - plain and simple. Now please, lets show some decorum and get back to talking about hot chicks with great asses. Post pics if you got em..


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Yes, I proudly celebrate Thanksgiving every year ... in the clean pure form as a celebration of the native culture ... not the raping of the native people, their land or anything like that. I also celebrate the American Thanksgiving, but that's mainly because I like pilgrams..


Good for you John Redcorn. I watch baseball playoffs until its time to stuff myself silly with turkey to the point that I have to unzip my pants, let my gut hang out and lie down for a while. Oh and if I'm not driving drinks through out the day.

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Where to start ... Olympics are vast waste of resouces that amount to a pissing contest between countries and a corporate shill that governments use to force though public works developemnts that should be done anyway.


I agree they are a vast waste of resources. Infact that is one of my main reasons for not wanting the Velodrome here in Milton. Host nations generally are left with a huge amount of debt after Olympic Games let along the Pan AM games but I was not commenting on the economics of the games I was merely giving you an example of something exciting, definately not boring.

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Been to Banff, pretty sure, tourist trap, you bet.


Tourist trap, maybe but boring no. Beautiful yes.

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Rue St. Catherines, I lived in Montreal and worked on the corner of St. Catherines and Sherbrooke. Side note, the other thread that talks about the Milton downtown festival, Milton should model the street festivals on Montreal's Ave Mont Royal.


So are you agreeing with me that it is not boring?

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I do agree in part, but Quebec has a much more defined culture, like a little country village in France that got stuck in time from a language and food perspective. Define being an Ontarioian. It's not possible. We could get into an awesome 'Milton Mom's' style debate on the merits of saying merry christmas being a defined cultural feature or as they would say there 'why are those immigrants telling me that I can't say merry crhistmas!'.

Or just skip to the end of the protracted arguement and get to the result: Immigrants aren't the ones saying don't say 'merry christmas' it's the moron politically correct people (read fat white middle aged politicians) trying to make things just cheery for everyone, combined with corporations who ... if you can believe it ... don't actually want to exclude anyone as they know Jews and Muslims also buy sh*t too as they often have holidays at the same time of year! And so do Athiests like me by the way.


Again I guess we are in agreement here in a round about way. You're right, how do we define being from Ontario? Its difficult. That's why I had said we should be more like Quebecers and bee passionate about our way of life and ensure people adapt to it rather than us trying to adapt to everyone else.

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VCola wrote:
It may not have been called Canada but the country didn't just fall out of the sky close to two centuries ago. The natives were here well before the white man ever stumbled onto the content. Allegedly Vikings also visited the east coast well before Columbus set sail.


I think it is fairly well accepted the Vikings were here at this point. They have discovered all types of artifacts from old nails to coins in the ruins as well as written records.
Natives is a huge misnomer though; there were multiple waves of immigrants that all came to North America. There are no original indigenous people left alive (groups such as "natives" or Inuit came much later than groups such as the Dorset peoples or the Thules.

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Boring? Clearly you missed the excitment of the Vancouver Olympics or a Game 7 of a Stanley Cup Final. I know what you're going to say, US based teams have won the cup for the last 19 years. If you were to say that I would remind you that hockey is Canadian and the Cup was donated and named after an English Lord, as close as Canada came to having its own policitical body in place at the time.


Boring is not how I would describe the riots which totally overshadowed the actual game.
Also the cup itself is fairly symbolic in that it like most other Canadian institutions (eg HBC) have been sold to Americans and are hardly Canadian anymore (even seeding, wild cards, & draft lotteries aping US sports)

We still have the Grey Cup I suppose...


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VCola wrote:
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Yes, I proudly celebrate Thanksgiving every year ... in the clean pure form as a celebration of the native culture ... not the raping of the native people, their land or anything like that. I also celebrate the American Thanksgiving, but that's mainly because I like pilgrams..


Good for you John Redcorn. I watch baseball playoffs until its time to stuff myself silly with turkey to the point that I have to unzip my pants, let my gut hang out and lie down for a while. Oh and if I'm not driving drinks through out the day.


So is Canadian culture celebrating an American (or pagan) festival, while watching American baseball, while drinking a Budweiser perhaps?


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Where to start ... Olympics are vast waste of resouces that amount to a pissing contest between countries and a corporate shill that governments use to force though public works developemnts that should be done anyway.


I agree they are a vast waste of resources. Infact that is one of my main reasons for not wanting the Velodrome here in Milton. Host nations generally are left with a huge amount of debt after Olympic Games let along the Pan AM games but I was not commenting on the economics of the games I was merely giving you an example of something exciting, definately not boring.


Ok, every 20+ years when the Olymics are in Canada it's awesome if it's local to you I guess. But I think that's very subjective, I imagine it's a pretty even split on who is excited the Olympics are in town with those who wish to their god that they could get the hell out of Dodge.



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Rue St. Catherines, I lived in Montreal and worked on the corner of St. Catherines and Sherbrooke. Side note, the other thread that talks about the Milton downtown festival, Milton should model the street festivals on Montreal's Ave Mont Royal.


So are you agreeing with me that it is not boring?


You got me, one street in Canada is cool.


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I do agree in part, but Quebec has a much more defined culture, like a little country village in France that got stuck in time from a language and food perspective. Define being an Ontarioian. It's not possible. We could get into an awesome 'Milton Mom's' style debate on the merits of saying merry christmas being a defined cultural feature or as they would say there 'why are those immigrants telling me that I can't say merry crhistmas!'.

Or just skip to the end of the protracted arguement and get to the result: Immigrants aren't the ones saying don't say 'merry christmas' it's the moron politically correct people (read fat white middle aged politicians) trying to make things just cheery for everyone, combined with corporations who ... if you can believe it ... don't actually want to exclude anyone as they know Jews and Muslims also buy sh*t too as they often have holidays at the same time of year! And so do Athiests like me by the way.


Again I guess we are in agreement here in a round about way. You're right, how do we define being from Ontario? Its difficult. That's why I had said we should be more like Quebecers and bee passionate about our way of life and ensure people adapt to it rather than us trying to adapt to everyone else.


Ok, so lets work this out ... From what I can tell from this and other treads, Ontario is defined as America (but with brown people of the non Spanish type,) or maybe it's England, but colder and with turkey and Banff ... oh wait, Banff is in Alberta.

F*** that.

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OMG like you totes got it! :lol:


I don't get it. :?


I know man ... I know.


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Obviously we have a difference in opinion. I am a proud Canadian, you're a self loathing Canadian. I'm okay with that, everyone doesn't have to agree with everything I say.

Any way we've totally jacked this thread. Sorry Niewy, didn't mean to steal your thunder.


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Any way we've totally jacked this thread. Sorry Niewy, didn't mean to steal your thunder.


{fuming} :P

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Its not this girl cause shes a brunette...

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There...thats better.


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Canada is a new country that doesn't have a millennia + of culture.

We are a boring vast country with no identity.

Telling people to adapt to a embrace a weak/non-existent culture is impossible and setting people up for immediate failure.


Canada is a part of Anglo culture, which originated in the United Kingdom. Today that includes the UK, the USA, Canada, and Australia. Anglo culture has diverged somewhat into different paths, including the North American branch, which we are a part of. There are also some cultural differences between regions of North America, even between different cities in the same province/state -- but at the end of the day our culture/civilization is Anglo.

Take a history lesson and lose the pompous attitude.

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I'm as white and 'Canadian' as they come, but I'm also educated and travelled. I'm here because my family has been here for generations but I'm stuck in Milton and can't wait to get out of here. There are just too many people who really should be put back on a boat and sent back home, over the pond to the great cesspool homeland England.


Ok - so you hate yourself. Cool story bro.

Let me guess, you believe in cultural relativism, too?


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Its not this girl cause shes a brunette...

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There...thats better.


You do make a persuasive argument. I agree.


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so has someone printed out the girls pic above, walked into TD, and asked to be helped by her yet? lol


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No, but there was a pretty hot chick making cakes at the portugese bakery

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Canada is a part of Anglo culture, which originated in the United Kingdom. Today that includes the UK, the USA, Canada, and Australia. Anglo culture has diverged somewhat into different paths, including the North American branch, which we are a part of. There are also some cultural differences between regions of North America, even between different cities in the same province/state -- but at the end of the day our culture/civilization is Anglo.

Take a history lesson and lose the pompous attitude.


We are part of one giant ponzi scheme. The only way things continue to work is if we keep adding new people. Yes, 'Canada' started as an Anglo & French culture, but that was quickly suplimented with other cultures. The cost of keeping the economy going is dilution.

From what I've seen outside of random families, 2nd generation Canadian's for the most part aren't breeders. Dilution is only going to continue and at a faster pace, we might as well just deal with it.

I also thought a pompous attitude was required on H.V.

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Let me guess, you believe in cultural relativism, too?


I do believe that if you are a guest in a country that you should follow the laws and respect the beliefs of it, but I generally lean more to moral universalism.


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So I should have 4 kids then? Just to "keep it real"? Or should I keep going and just breed an army?


Can't fault the Duggers and all of their miracle babies now can we.

Personally I'm betting that at the end of the day beige is going to be the winning Canadian colour & culture.


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