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DRiFT_645
PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 2:28 pm 
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Corporations aren't under-taxed when you compare our corporate tax rates to other major cities/countries around the world. Many places in the US use tolls as a means of controlling traffic volumes and generating income for improvements to roads. I think it's an avenue worth investigating. It's not a tax if you don't use it. :)

Here's an idea: tax tractor trailors that travel on the 401 during rush hour. I know for a fact that there are roads/highways in USA which ban truck traffic during peak rush hour. That would go a long way in reducing congestion on the 401 or other routes we want to isolate (QEW etc...).
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Tony Lambert wrote:

Good ideas Martin, thanks however I will ALWAYS be leery of raising the contribution from taxpayers, my constituents through tolls like this. We are over taxed as it is! Corporations are under taxed, residents over taxed!

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Tony

With respect private sector corporations are the engine of our economy and they are not under-taxed! Prior to retiring I was CEO of a subsidiary of an American Corporation and believe me they (my shareholders) watched our Provincial and Federal Budgets as carefully as I did except they were looking for reasons to relocate my facility to the US! I also constantly got calls from the economic development offices of states like Virginia and Maryland seeking to attract me to move the organisation to their areas.

Corporations are ultimately owned by individuals and taxes on Corporations are taxes on individuals!!!

We need innovative new ways of raising revenue. The beauty of user fees is that if you don't use you don't pay so your constituents need not be taxed unless they choose to be in payment of a faster commute!

You are giving political answers Tony and I realise for a politician to advocate user fees is likely political suicide but if we don't get past the political rhetoric then I am afraid congestion will not be solved and you will come to truly understand what gridlock means!!!

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What a crock this all is!

Step 1. Build 33% less capacity than will be required (4 lanes rather than 6).
Step 2. Increase the subdivision density beyond the level of Mississauga (which has mostly 6 lane arterials).
Step 3. Implement "Smart Growth" or "New Urbanist" design principles such as having no right turn lanes at critical points.
Step 4. Implement more traffic lights than would normally exist in a suburban setting.
Step 5. Then, to add insult to injury, time the traffic lights for "traffic calming" rather than efficient travel.
Step 6. Be sure to spend as much money as possible on non-infrastructure projects like the Velodrome, Sports Center, etc etc.
Step 7. Claim there isn't enough money to build wider roads up front.
Step 8. Claim that "transit" is the only solution to this gridlock-by-design and ask the province for billions of dollars in additional transit spending.


Truly, this is how we can actually solve the problem instead of blaming the province and asking for more money. The solutions and problems that need to be solved are local. Let's fix what we can before asking for a 401 expansion. I'd love to hear some response to each of these points listed.
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Brian Hawley
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Tony Lambert wrote:
Hi Martin Capper,

Thanks for joining the debate, and adding your knowledge, I greatly appreciate it.

Where do we get $30 billion dollars from for Metrolinx's BIG MOVE plans? The private sector. NOT Mr/Mrs. Taxpayer. Not my constituents. Nope. People are over taxed as it is in Canada.

It is an absolute truth we need more infrastructure in the GTA, and for us the west GTA. Immigration to Canada each year is more than 220,000 people. Most move to the GTA, and eventually come to Milton. We are better for their contributions to our society and economy. But getting to Toronto on the roads during rush hour is a brutal nightmare. Pure psycho horror. I put forward at the round table meeting that corporations, especially the larger ones that conduct business in Halton greatly benefit from the opportunity to locate in Halton. It is they, as good corporate citizens, who should pay, through a rise in their marginal corporate tax rate the costs for infrastructure - transit Martin.

This is not my jurisdiction, just me talking. But the federal and provincial governments who can dedicate say 1% increase in their corporate tax may also make it a credit for them, a way for the corporations (not small ma and pa companies) but ones of 50 employees and more, could maybe get part of the money back at tax time.

Just a thought and suggestions, I'm putting out there. Have a great day.

Best Regards,
Tony

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http://www.tony-lambert.ca

Tony,
for your information, the corporate tax rate has recently dropped because Canadian businesses are OVER taxed. business properties are taxed higher to contribute to infrastrucure already. moreover, if you think that the larger corporations are going to be forced to contribute extra money to commuters for the "honour" of locating in Milton, and then not jack prices up to offset contributions then you are being naive. I couldn't help notice the irony that your main election contributers were corporations with more than 50 employees- I wonder what they think of your thoughts and suggestions?

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Tony Lambert
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Hi Martin Capper,

Thanks for this discussion, between you and I because it let's everyone know what I think, and how I talk with developers contractors staff and other councillors. I think medium and large corporations are under taxed in Canada. They should be paying more. Especially to such issues as infrastructure which they benefit from. I will never convince you of this, which is cool, this is not my goal. My goal is to let people know who I am and where I stand. And this is my platform as long as the voters give me.

Corporations are corporate citizens. They earn a disproportionate share of income in our economy compared to Mr/Mrs. Taxpayer (now you got me stirred up Martin Capper) - they SHOULD be paying for growth because they benefit from it. That's the solution in my opinion. Period. (To be continued).


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Tony

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Brian Hawley wrote:
Tony Lambert wrote:
Hi Martin Capper,

Thanks for joining the debate, and adding your knowledge, I greatly appreciate it.

Where do we get $30 billion dollars from for Metrolinx's BIG MOVE plans? The private sector. NOT Mr/Mrs. Taxpayer. Not my constituents. Nope. People are over taxed as it is in Canada.

It is an absolute truth we need more infrastructure in the GTA, and for us the west GTA. Immigration to Canada each year is more than 220,000 people. Most move to the GTA, and eventually come to Milton. We are better for their contributions to our society and economy. But getting to Toronto on the roads during rush hour is a brutal nightmare. Pure psycho horror. I put forward at the round table meeting that corporations, especially the larger ones that conduct business in Halton greatly benefit from the opportunity to locate in Halton. It is they, as good corporate citizens, who should pay, through a rise in their marginal corporate tax rate the costs for infrastructure - transit Martin.

This is not my jurisdiction, just me talking. But the federal and provincial governments who can dedicate say 1% increase in their corporate tax may also make it a credit for them, a way for the corporations (not small ma and pa companies) but ones of 50 employees and more, could maybe get part of the money back at tax time.

Just a thought and suggestions, I'm putting out there. Have a great day.

Best Regards,
Tony

Tony Lambert
Town & Regional Councillor
Wards 1,6,7 and 8
http://www.tony-lambert.ca

Tony,
for your information, the corporate tax rate has recently dropped because Canadian businesses are OVER taxed. business properties are taxed higher to contribute to infrastrucure already. moreover, if you think that the larger corporations are going to be forced to contribute extra money to commuters for the "honour" of locating in Milton, and then not jack prices up to offset contributions then you are being naive. I couldn't help notice the irony that your main election contributers were corporations with more than 50 employees- I wonder what they think of your thoughts and suggestions?



Hi Brian,

Happy New Year. Thanks for joining the debate. I represent the people in my wards not who gave me money. I could not care less what corporations think, or who gave me money, or who will in the future.

The first thing I did on council when elected was try to shut development DOWN! I don 't answer to developers. And they KNOW that. Funny huh? Like me or not, I am whom I am. I will take your money, but if you come against the people my face will be against you (no apologies). I will STILL win, on $0 of donations. Just watch.

If I cared less, I would be asleep. Brian, corporations do not determine who represents the voters of wards 1 6 7 and 8 in Milton, the PEOPLE do!


Best Regards,
Tony

Tony Lambert
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Wards 1,6,7 and 8
http://www.tony-lambert.ca
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Tony Lambert wrote:
Brian Hawley wrote:
Tony Lambert wrote:
Hi Martin Capper,

Thanks for joining the debate, and adding your knowledge, I greatly appreciate it.

Where do we get $30 billion dollars from for Metrolinx's BIG MOVE plans? The private sector. NOT Mr/Mrs. Taxpayer. Not my constituents. Nope. People are over taxed as it is in Canada.

It is an absolute truth we need more infrastructure in the GTA, and for us the west GTA. Immigration to Canada each year is more than 220,000 people. Most move to the GTA, and eventually come to Milton. We are better for their contributions to our society and economy. But getting to Toronto on the roads during rush hour is a brutal nightmare. Pure psycho horror. I put forward at the round table meeting that corporations, especially the larger ones that conduct business in Halton greatly benefit from the opportunity to locate in Halton. It is they, as good corporate citizens, who should pay, through a rise in their marginal corporate tax rate the costs for infrastructure - transit Martin.

This is not my jurisdiction, just me talking. But the federal and provincial governments who can dedicate say 1% increase in their corporate tax may also make it a credit for them, a way for the corporations (not small ma and pa companies) but ones of 50 employees and more, could maybe get part of the money back at tax time.

Just a thought and suggestions, I'm putting out there. Have a great day.

Best Regards,
Tony

Tony Lambert
Town & Regional Councillor
Wards 1,6,7 and 8
http://www.tony-lambert.ca

Tony,
for your information, the corporate tax rate has recently dropped because Canadian businesses are OVER taxed. business properties are taxed higher to contribute to infrastrucure already. moreover, if you think that the larger corporations are going to be forced to contribute extra money to commuters for the "honour" of locating in Milton, and then not jack prices up to offset contributions then you are being naive. I couldn't help notice the irony that your main election contributers were corporations with more than 50 employees- I wonder what they think of your thoughts and suggestions?



Hi Brian,

Happy New Year. Thanks for joining the debate. I represent the people in my wards not who gave me money. I could not care less what corporations think, or who gave me money, or who will in the future.

The first thing I did on council when elected was try to shut development DOWN! I don 't answer to developers. And they KNOW that. Funny huh? Like me or not, I am whom I am. I will take your money, but if you come against the people my face will be against you (no apologies). I will STILL win, on $0 of donations. Just watch.

If I cared less, I would be asleep. Brian, corporations do not determine who represents the voters of wards 1 6 7 and 8 in Milton, the PEOPLE do!


Best Regards,
Tony

Tony Lambert
Town & Regional Councillor
Wards 1,6,7 and 8
http://www.tony-lambert.ca

lol wow... tell me, do you get many nosebleeds standing on that soapbox Tony? it seems your penchant for panhandling for votes is matched only by your economic ignorance...

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Do we need the province to fix the timing of the Trafalgar/Derry intersection?

Just askin'

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Where will these corporations get the money to pay these higher taxes? It's not coming out of their profits or bonus that's for sure.
Keeping in mind that a Corporation pays $xxx,xxx in tax, BUT employs hundreds of people who also pay $x,xxx in tax. If you chase the corporation out of town and they take their jobs with them, who's left to pay tax?

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Where are the corporations running to?

That said, I would be happy to levy a greater tax on corporations that cannot run away so easily (eg. banks). I've heard they made a few billion in taxable profit last year...

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I can't be bothered to research this, but I heard the banks pay enough tax annually to cover OHIP expenses for the entire country. Do you think a bank will reduce dividends or increase mortgage rates in order to pay a higher tax?

They are running to the next town down the 401 that is offering free land, tax deductions, cash incentives, political favors etc in order to attract the $xxx,xxx and the hundreds of $x,xxx.

We have finally attracted some major employers to the town. Asking them to pay for infrastructure mistakes made over the last 10 years isn't going to be well received.

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Tony, you say corporations are under taxed. What do you base this on? I assume you are comparing to other regions. Which regions or facts are you basing this on?
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Knave wrote:
Do we need the province to fix the timing of the Trafalgar/Derry intersection?

Just askin'


Hi Knave,

Thanks. In the two years I have been the regional councillor for Trafalgar and Derry, I have asked regional staff eight times to go and adjust the timing of the lights. Each of the times I asked, prompted by Hawthorne Villager posters, staff have checked it out - same day. And then changed the timing within 10 days. Thanks HV posters for being my ears and eyes in Milton. Thanks staff for respecting and listening to us 24/7.

Knave, are the lights out of sync? Please let me know and I and regional staff will correct it.

Thank You,
Tony

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Tony Lambert is the Peoples Champ.
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^^ No kidding. The People's Republic of Milton, lol.
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