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Hi Rick ... and Tony

There is a way for you both to be on the same side of a Transit vote. Tony you are voting against further development at the region until the province meets its promises - I presume you will take the same stand at Town Council as anything else would be hypocritical!

The Transit Master Plan assumes growth will continue at the current pace and does not take into account the delay that you advocate. So "walking the walk" means you should vote to have discussion on the Transit Master Plan reopened otherwise you are wasting taxpayers, ie your voters, money! I am sure Rick would be happy to second your motion and it will be interesting to see if the Mayor and Colin vote with you at Region and are also prepared to "walk the walk".

I guess it also means the two proposals for the Main St/JSP vicinity should be in jeopardy as well - wonder how OMB will look at that? Many of the residents will be happy!

Martin

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No I don't think that; as far as I'm concerned there is no such thing as a so-called "regular" 9-5 workday. I once worked a 10pm-6am shift in downtown Toronto. I had to leave by about 8pm to drive to the Bronte station in order to get a train that would get me there in time, and then about a 10 minute subway ride north. There were no buses leaving Milton that could have me in Toronto by 10pm, and nothing coming west before 9am. And yes I know it was a 20 minute drive down there- big whoop right? But I might have considered taking the Milton line had there been a train- all it would have been was a five minute bus ride, and that would have been one car taken off the road.

Milton probably has enough people to support both- why not have buses running every hour on the hour, and trains every hour on the half hour? And further to that, if there's a way to make some cash, shouldn't the province be giving it more serious thought than it has been?

I wouldn't go as far as Clr. Lambert and stop growth because of the transit; it's gone too far for that. The only way here is to try and manage it better- and with the current provincial government the only way to do that is yell. And when we're still being ignored to get louder- to steal a line from Clr. Cluett.

I often say about Milton: "You have to live here to get it." You have to live here to fully understand how far behind the infrastructure when compared to growth; you have to live here to understand why we need a new hospital.

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Hi Martin,

Good afternoon, I hope you are well. Yes, I will be voting against any more development as a Milton Councillor on Milton Council, to prevent more congestion on our regional roads until the province keeps their promise to be our partners in growth by providing options to Miltonians for an all day two way train service, and a Milton East GO station at Trafalgar and Derry. The East Milton GO station is very important because it will alleviate parking at the Milton GO station because a high percentage of commuters at the Milton GO station, drive there and park from Georgetown Cambridge and Kitchener. If we have a GO station at Trafalgar & Derry, it will significantly improve the Milton GO station parking. As well , many future Miltonians who will be living south of Louis St. Laurent and west of James Snow Parkway will need that East Milton GO station (Trafalgar & Derry).

The Transportation Master Plan approved by Milton council this year does not kick in unless #1. We have money in each particular year identified in the annual budget process (and then passed by Milton Council), each and every year. It's dependant on the money Milton has, and the particular votes of Milton's elected representatives in that specific year.

And then the second requirement is - #2. ridership targets are met. If there are not enough people taking public transit in Milton, council can decide to not implement the recommendation of the Transportation Plan for that specific year. So the delay I will be fighting for on future development unless the province changes their stance on Milton (and I hope their reading this), kicks in. Less new people/development = less local transit expansion/costs. So therefore, Mr/Mrs. Taxpayer is protected if I win and show the Government of Ontario to think twice. To not try to force 150,000 people in my 4 wards on top of the 100,000 people here, and not keep up transportation infrastructure (trains as an option).

I will be voting against future development on Milton Council because the province is not keeping their promise to me and the people I represent. No, I will not be trying to reopen developments we (Milton Council) already passed based on the province's promises of help during our growth.

As for "walking the walk", I will "walk" mine. Just watch for my request for a recorded vote next Wednesday. Yes, our town - our way. (Don't try taking advantage of my constituents while I'm on Milton & Halton Council - Any government, Any Company......it's not worth it...you're gonna lose).


Best Regards,
Tony

Tony Lambert
Town & Regional Councillor
Wards 1,6,7 and 8
http://www.tony-lambert.ca

.... and the purchase of the new buses Tony. I suspect Chris Hadfield has physical contact with more people in one orbit than the average Milton Transit driver does on one circuit of his route!

As for calling for a recorded vote don't you think it would be way more effective if you ensured you had a majority voting with you ahead of the vote? Can we expect all 3 of our Milton representatives to vote the same way on Wednesday?

Martin

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Hey Martin,

It is impossible to control/predict the vote of the Regional Councillors. Too complex, too political, too much work. Too much, too much - trust me - you can't dictate to regional councillors.

As for the vote next Wednesday, you have to understand that the people who run and eventually get on regional council have an exorbitantly thick skin. Thicker than anyone can penetrate, or rattle for many reasons. I will never speak for another elected man or woman. I am not holding this Councillor job for the money Martin. I have a successful business which pays all my bills. Yup, I do this because I WANT a better Milton. - I am NOT doing this for the money.

I do this because I am willing to take the slings for what I believe is best for my community.

Mayor Gord Krantz and Regional Councillor Best have pushed through most of the things needed in my 4 wards and EVERYONE should know that. I am the Town & Regional Councillor that represents all of the Newbies. Gord AND Colin know that, and have treated me as such. Thank you Gord and Colin.

Without those 2 brave men, in my 1st term as representative of the Newbies, new Miltonians suffer. And that's the hard truth folks, trust a newbie like me. Gord AND Colin rock the house for us. I admire and respect Mayor Gord Krantz and Regional Councillor Best. Thanks guys.


Best Regards,
Tony

Tony Lambert
Town & Regional Councillor
Wards 1,6,7 and 8
http://www.tony-lambert.ca

Can we keep the brown nosing to a minimum? I don’t want to picture you three all oiled up in bed telling one another what a great job you’re doing spending other peoples money.

My brown nosing time is mine. All mine. Please let me give props to the 2 guys (Gord and Colin)
who allow me to fight for us - without getting into a bigger uglier fight with them - which I am going to avoid - and the 3 of us know that.


Thank You,
Tony

Tony Lambert
Town & Regional Councillor
Wards 1,6,7, and 8
http://www.tony-lambert.ca

Tony,

Can you help me understand why the new station you're pushing for at Derry/Trafalgar is called the 'west Milton GO Station'?

I've been going over my Never Eat Shredded Wheat all day, and every time Derry/Trafalgar ends up EAST of Milton. Also, please explain how a station in that location will help with commuters from Cambridge and Kitchener.

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it's two more stops further, but right off the highway... one would assume people would choose the convenience of the highway parking lot then traveling down 25 to the highway.

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How many people here have been to council meetings? I'm curious if Tony speaks at meetings in the same manner he posts here. If so, I gotta start attending these pow-wows. Reality tv has sucked the last few years and hockey's only got a couple months left.

Oh yea, and why would Kitchener and Georgetown commuters grab the Milton train? Isn't there a Georgetown/Kitchener line to downtown already?

I attend every meeting. Alas, he does not pontificate with such vim and vigour.

Robb

That's what I figured.

newbieNATION ?? "#4@# Yeah!" ??

Now I think I've heard everything.

Someone tell me if I am reading this wrong, please.....

Did Tony say the Master Plan only kicks in if we have the money to fund it and the ridership to justify it but the money depends on how our elected reps votes (like voting to raise taxes to get the money - my example) and even if there's not enough ridership, council can, if they choose, decide not to implement rather than will not implement?

Does that sound about right?

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Hi The Home Hunter,

Good evening,

Thanks, I meant the Milton East GO station at Trafalgar and Derry. It's very important because a large percentage (according to statistics) of the commuters who take the train from the Milton GO station come from Guelph Kitchener and Georgetown. They find it very convenient as opposed to getting the train from their town. Also, as Milton grows, thousands of commuters west of James Snow and south of Louis St. Laurent will prefer to get the train from that eastern GO station rather go to the GO station at Thompson and Main in Milton.

There is going to be a concerted push back from Milton and Halton Councillors against the province leaving Milton out of Metrolinx's transportation solutions over the next 2 months. As the Councillor who represents those constituents most affected by the province's ignorance of voters' needs, I will be very vocal to the province. Shazam!!!


Best Regards,
Tony

Tony Lambert
Town & Regional Councillor
Wards 1,6,7 and 8
www.tony-lambert.ca