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PostPosted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 9:06 am 
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LM34 wrote:
Omg I love living in old milton. We have been there 15 months now (dorset Park). We previously lived by metro.

Don't ever see myself leaving old milton unless it is because I move to oakville!

Good luck Steph!


What are the specific aspects you love most? When you bought your Old Milton home and did a home inspection, did you find anything major?

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for me the only benefit of an older home is the lot size and more mature neighbourhood look (which is a big plus).

Outside of that, I would take my chance with quality issues on a new home (and get them fixed for free) over potentially dropping tens of thousands on maintenance and upgrades. Has anyone ever priced out a full complement of quality windows?


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routehero wrote:
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I kind of like the quaintness of Old Milton as I was driving by some of the quiet sections within Oak St. and west Laurier recently. Is there a fairly large variety in home sizes (i.e 1300 sq ft to 2000 sq ft), and are they just as expensive as some of the newer Mattamys, but with more baggage from old age like leaky windows, foundation leaks, and old piping/wiring?


I'm still on my first house, but I am starting to believe that old houses problems are better than new house problems, particularly Mattamy ones.

I can't imagine having to struggle with Mattamy, Tarion and all the issues in the first two years. In a 20+ year old home, everything is just routine maintenance, no? Replace the windows, shingle the roof, etc.

To each their own.


You're forgetting nob and tube wiring, crappy maintenance/patch jobs from previous owners, etc etc. One window (like the one in my family room) is about $2k to replace...I cannot imagine having to replace 13 giant windows.

I watch Love It or List It, Property Brothers and Mike Holmes on the reg!

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It really is the pool capital of the GTA. Look at that pool ratio!

Also, Munchie is right. Lots are great, trees are awesome. 100k reno job.. not so much.

Oh if only we could transplant our new homes on to a lot that you can't trip over.

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munchito wrote:
for me the only benefit of an older home is the lot size and more mature neighbourhood look (which is a big plus).

Outside of that, I would take my chance with quality issues on a new home (and get them fixed for free) over potentially dropping tens of thousands on maintenance and upgrades. Has anyone ever priced out a full complement of quality windows?


Yeah, these are precisely the things that concern me in old homes, on top of some of the other things Prickly_Peter mentioned, but as some have said, the bigger lots, the better neighbours and nicer looks of the place are draws.

I guess it depends on one's tolerance for repairs and amount of reserve money, because a lot of homeowners are over-leveraged to the point where they are one leaking roof or one foundation crack away from bankruptcy.

I'm starting to like Old Milton too, hence my curiosity.

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I'd be surprised if you'd find a house in this town with K&T wiring.

On the topic of "free repairs" from Mattamy, Tarion and their friends, I've seen enough threads on here and reading about the various struggles people go through, that I don't think it's so simple.

But, I sold my house, so f**K it. I'm the f**K out of here.


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I hear Prickly_Pete is moving to Old Milton because of the non-fluoridated water.


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But, I sold my house, so f**K it. I'm the f**K out of here.


When you sold your house, did you have this in the mls description?

Located on a quite, gleaming, major thoroughfare, that leads to the 401.

That could have fetched you thousands more.

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No. Fred put down "we love our neighbours and will miss them" on our ad. What a guy.

I was a bit scared that buyers would see the impending shortcut, but they did not or did not care, and bought the house -- first day on MLS.

I'm moving back to Montreal for a new job. I wouldn't say it's greener pastures, but you can buy a much better house for much cheaper there. Just a lot of crazy PQ.


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No. Fred put down "we love our neighbours and will miss them" on our ad. What a guy.

I was a bit scared that buyers would see the impending shortcut, but they did not or did not care, and bought the house -- first day on MLS.

I'm moving back to Montreal for a new job. I wouldn't say it's greener pastures, but you can buy a much better house for much cheaper there. Just a lot of crazy PQ.


Closer to mountains. It's a win no matter what happens. Sold to a family of 12 I assume?


This having been my first house sale, I was strongly amused by the charade of it all.

Really, the only thing missing from the MLS ad was "Flexible flooring". Why say squeaky when you can promote it was FLEXIBLE?

First time home buyer I gather. No kids. More of the Markham persuasion than the Brampton kind.


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Some of the realtors here should know what the older homes are like in Milton but I wouldn't think they are much different (at least most of them) then those here in my nice pocket in Brampton. Btw, most of the homes they show on Love It or List It are homes built before the forties so totally different issues. For instance our home was built in mid sixties like most of my neighbourhood, certainly no knob & tube wiring and in our area no aluminum wiring though I do remember some subdivisions here in Brampton & Georgetown having them from that era, not sure about Milton. Biggest costs are furnace, windows & roofs. Though most homes are already renovated when up for resale in those regards, I know ours was, every window was new Pella high quality. Only windows not done still were the four basement ones we replaced for a cost of just over $1,000 perhaps? We also bought a home with totally renovated kitchen with high end cabinets (though I would of prefered maple) but they left the flooring throughout main floor vinyl. However we had a fantastic tiler come in three years later and do ceramic on the diagonal for an awesome price.

Older homes are great because you get to see what the streetscape & subdivision is already like plus you get the large lots, mature landscapes and large driveways for parking and lots of bungalows. On the negative the homes themselves are usually smaller though that really depends on the home model and there are usually less washrooms or master ensuites and no main floor laundryrooms unless during reno they have been added.

Again depends - because my home is slightly above average in size (four bedrooms, main floor family room) but some are on the more upscale perimeter streets with up to 4,000 plus sq. feet. Easy to look for homes that are already renovated or purchase one that you can renovate to your taste. This is our first older home & I'd have to agree that they are definitely better built then our brand new ones but certainly pros & cons either way.


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routehero wrote:
I'm moving back to Montreal for a new job. I wouldn't say it's greener pastures, but you can buy a much better house for much cheaper there. Just a lot of crazy PQ.


Move to the West Island (not Pierrefonds or DDO...more like Beaconsfield or Kirkland). Stay away from St-Henri, Verdun, Lasalle, Lachine, Point St-Charles and certain areas of Laval.

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Move to the West Island (not Pierrefonds or DDO...more like Beaconsfield or Kirkland). Stay away from St-Henri, Verdun, Lasalle, Lachine, Point St-Charles and certain areas of Laval.


How is Matane, Cap-Sante, St. Eustache, Notre-Dame-des-Pins and Dolbeau-Mistassini like? (I have no idea where in Quebec these cities are, I just see these addresses all the time in my job).

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How is Matane, Cap-Sante, St. Eustache, Notre-Dame-des-Pins and Dolbeau-Mistassini like? (I have no idea where in Quebec these cities are, I just see these addresses all the time in my job).


St-Eustache is a just off the island of Laval on the north shore...kinda quiet...sorta middle class.
The rest are not near enough to commute to Montreal so I doubt he'd move there.

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That's my hood! No pool though. Been here less than a year - moved after 7 years in new Milton.

Very friendly neighborhood. People who live or move here are here for the long term, so seem to put more effort into building relationships with other folks around. Majority of homes are owned by boomers or their parents, as you'd expect, but young families like my own seem to be flooding in from new Milton.

Large lots, huge trees (shade...), parks with trees, quiet streets. Love walking/biking with family. Central location with respect to rest of Milton - downtown, Home Depot and Crappy Tire, Superstore plaza, GO station, Milton Mall.

There can be some big ticket maintenance costs to deal with, depending on the house. Wiring in Dorset Park is aluminum, so a $2000 aluminum retrofit was in order. Some windows, AC, garage door, etc. Factor all that in to the price you pay for sure.




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It really is the pool capital of the GTA. Look at that pool ratio!

Also, Munchie is right. Lots are great, trees are awesome. 100k reno job.. not so much.

Oh if only we could transplant our new homes on to a lot that you can't trip over.

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Man I was JUST looking at the same map. Weird.

Anwyay you see those 9 houses in a row on Lorne Scott's that all have pools? Brother-in-law's in-law's live there. Awesome place in the summer. Great neighborhood. Decent house? $750,000. Yeah... that's rough.


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