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 Post subject: Netflix speeds
PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2014 8:57 pm 
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Cogeco not too bad:

http://ispspeedindex.netflix.com/canada


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 Post subject: Re: Netflix speeds
PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2014 10:51 pm 
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Woot For FTTH !!

I just watched this video on Net Neutrality... It used Netflix as an example.. You could poke a bunch of holes in the first Anlogy she uses, but the rest of the video is a good explanation of what is going on...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAxMyTwmu_M

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 Post subject: Re: Netflix speeds
PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2014 8:46 am 
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We’re lucky to be in Canada. All our ISP’s are pretty good (Rogers borderline sucks, but we don’t have that problem in Milton).

In the US the situation is a disaster. Most people have 1 ISP to choose from, and the big ones like time warner and Comcast are abusing their monopoly positions. Comcast downgraded all it’s Netflix connections until Netflix agreed to pay delivery fees, and people get lousy speeds in most cities.


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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2014 8:58 am 
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prickly_pete wrote:
It's all pretty much a moot point. Any one of those listed would be able to stream Super HD content from Netflix with better picture quality than any digital cable offering.


Being theoretically possible is not same thing as doing it
Not one of those averages (even fibre) would ensure 100% Super HD playback (average needs to be over 5 to do so)

https://help.netflix.com/en/node/306


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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2014 9:26 am 
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bremer wrote:
We’re lucky to be in Canada. All our ISP’s are pretty good...
...time warner and Comcast are abusing their monopoly positions.


Not to take the thread offside, but I completely disagree with that statement. The Canadian ISPs totally abuse their monopoly position as well, imposing caps and usage fees that are designed to make alternative video options unaffordable. I wrote it about it with some fire in the belly back in 2011, and while the metrics have changed a bit the basic premise still stands - we're getting ripped off. http://pnear.wordpress.com/2011/02/03/1 ... n-english/

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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2014 10:51 am 
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pnear wrote:
bremer wrote:
We’re lucky to be in Canada. All our ISP’s are pretty good...
...time warner and Comcast are abusing their monopoly positions.


Not to take the thread offside, but I completely disagree with that statement. The Canadian ISPs totally abuse their monopoly position as well, imposing caps and usage fees that are designed to make alternative video options unaffordable. I wrote it about it with some fire in the belly back in 2011, and while the metrics have changed a bit the basic premise still stands - we're getting ripped off. http://pnear.wordpress.com/2011/02/03/1 ... n-english/

-Pete


I understand what your saying, and I don’t disagree. We’re looking at this from slightly different perspectives. Rogers and Bell are both positioning themselves to be both content producers as well as providers – especially with sports content. They are using this position to protect their cable TV positions and prevent cord cutting.

Download caps are another tool in this goal, but that also has some fat revenue perks for them as well, but here they have a slightly harder time truly hosing people as there is some degree of competition going on. Most Canadians can choose between several cable or phone based ISP’s. (even if some of them are piggy backing off the big providers, they do offer a degree of competition)

In Canada, you see internet speeds consistently increasing. Caps are restrictive, but not onerously so. Prices are elevated, but they aren’t obscene. Netflix and torrents are not throttled (or at least, they are not so throttled as to become unusable).

For example, I’m paying about $80 a month for a 50Mbs connection with a 300GB download cap. Bit torrents and Netflix work flawless for me.

Go to the US, and it’s a different picture. Some areas are good, but most people have 1 ISP to choose from and can’t get more then 2-4Mbs download. Comcast and Time Warner both throttled Netflix to the point it was unusable until Netflix paid carriage fees, which they finaly agreed to last month. To many Americans, the internet is still a slow, shitty experience.

So things up here need improvement, but we’re in far better shape then the Americans.


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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2014 11:12 am 
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I've used bell DSL, and I find it hard to believe that it is faster than rogers cable. Something isn't right.

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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2014 4:08 pm 
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elementZ wrote:
I've used bell DSL, and I find it hard to believe that it is faster than rogers cable. Something isn't right.


DSL has better download speeds but worse upload speeds (which makes things like ping, or gaming) feel much slower than it actually is


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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2014 9:54 am 
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According to Netflix, bell is the fastest, Rogers the slowest.


Netflix speed rankings place Bell 1st, Rogers last
http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/netflix ... -1.2639965

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