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PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2015 10:36 am 
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Devious wrote:
This term and last term.

2 terms.

Move on.

"The last two terms". If indeed the present term was to be included, it should have stated "my last term and two months of my present term". Accuracy in describing one's accomplishments should be tantamount for a politician.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2015 10:50 am 
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Foreveryoung wrote:
Devious wrote:
This term and last term.

2 terms.

Move on.

"The last two terms". If indeed the present term was to be included, it should have stated "my last term and two months of my present term". Accuracy in describing one's accomplishments should be tantamount for a politician.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2015 10:58 am 
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when someone refers to "US-style attacks on opponents", what does that mean? Would it be appropriate to say I don't want "Pakistani type" campaigns like we saw in the municipal elections. Why is American bashing the only accepted form of prejudice?


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2015 12:40 pm 
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glocklover wrote:
when someone refers to "US-style attacks on opponents", what does that mean? Would it be appropriate to say I don't want "Pakistani type" campaigns like we saw in the municipal elections. Why is American bashing the only accepted form of prejudice?


He means like the attacks on Ontario PC and Tim Hudak by Ontario Public Sector Unions (Coalition of Working Families).


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I don't know How much exposure the average Canadian have to American style ad's. Did you catch any of the Michigan Ad's for / Snyder or Terri lynn Land? I generally find U.S. Ads more direct, and often call into account ones voting record. Canada typically has a bunch abstract thoughts, and typically avoid the issues.


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Hey, that senior is Edward from the soap opera General Hospital, isn't it?

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2015 1:15 pm 
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NotHawthorny wrote:
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Zeeshan's blurbs don't talk about why he's better, but why his opponents haven't earned the right to be the Federal Liberal MP candidate.


Actually, if you took the time to read before your racist rantings you would have seen "My constituents saw the informed, committed and responsive representation I provided over the last 2 terms and asked me to step up because they want the same in Ottawa." or "I am the only candidate with knowledge, qualification and experience."

He clearly states why he is better, perhaps you couldn't seem them through all the burning crosses.


You sure like to throw that word around whenever it suits you. :) I suppose Kathleen Wynne haters are sexist and homophobic. There couldn't possibly be any other reason to hate a politician other than race, gender or sexual orientation.

Yes, of course he's saying why he's better but the reason he is better is because *insert condescending barbs toward less experienced opponents* which is not an honourable or professional way to prove that you are the man for the job.


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Margarita Maude wrote:
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Zeeshan's blurbs don't talk about why he's better, but why his opponents haven't earned the right to be the Federal Liberal MP candidate.


Actually, if you took the time to read before your racist rantings you would have seen "My constituents saw the informed, committed and responsive representation I provided over the last 2 terms and asked me to step up because they want the same in Ottawa." or "I am the only candidate with knowledge, qualification and experience."

He clearly states why he is better, perhaps you couldn't seem them through all the burning crosses.


You sure like to throw that word around whenever it suits you. :) I suppose Kathleen Wynne haters are sexist and homophobic. There couldn't possibly be any other reason to hate a politician other than race, gender or sexual orientation.

Yes, of course he's saying why he's better but the reason he is better is because *insert condescending barbs toward less experienced opponents* which is not an honourable or professional way to prove that you are the man for the job.


Thanks for the Input Bawd Maude,

I don't think I have called anyone out on that in the past, but thanks for the comment that makes absolutely no sense at all. But I guess you just throw out stupid things whenever it suits you:).

I wasn't aware that pointing out your candidates have no experience (fact) is considered condescending or unprofessional.

The one good thing about your retarded nonsense is that it looks like J&J has someone to join her at the clan meeting.


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NotHawthorny wrote:


Thanks for the Input Bawd Maude,

I don't think I have called anyone out on that in the past, but thanks for the comment that makes absolutely no sense at all. But I guess you just throw out stupid things whenever it suits you:).

I wasn't aware that pointing out your candidates have no experience (fact) is considered condescending or unprofessional.

The one good thing about your retarded nonsense is that it looks like J&J has someone to join her at the clan meeting.


Sorry whatever I said was too complicated for you to understand.

Saying something like "When you get sick do you visit your doctor or your accountant? If you enter a new field, do you first gain experience or apply directly for upper management?" in relation to politics is an unfair statement to make. As an MP or a councillor experience is not required in order to campaign so this is both misleading and seems like he is trying to insult the people he is running against.

Lol that professional victim mentality will get you far in life... Yes, J&J and I have a clan meeting next week on the subject of Tony Lambert, the innocent politician who has been surrounded by racism throughout his entire career as a Milton councillor. We're thinking that for our next extremely racist act toward Lambert we will disagree with his previous election platforms and gently suggest that it is inappropriate for a Milton councillor to drink and drive.


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prickly_pete wrote:
glocklover wrote:
when someone refers to "US-style attacks on opponents", what does that mean? Would it be appropriate to say I don't want "Pakistani type" campaigns like we saw in the municipal elections. Why is American bashing the only accepted form of prejudice?


Hahaha - please.

It's because we actually SEE these US political ads all the time. "Don't trust Ron McGee for Governor - in 1998 he voted to MURDER old ladies, and has been known to STEAL candy from small children. paidforbythevoteforstevemcderpfoundation."

Saying that US political advertisements are terrible isn't "American bashing."

When did everyone become such a giant pussy? Is this a 2015 New Years Resolution for everyone or something?



My favorite one is this PC attack ad on Trudeau for marijuana. CLASSIC stuff. Why buys into these?

Justin Trudeau wants your kids to smoke marijuana!!!!

http://blogs.canoe.ca/davidakin/politic ... n-trudeau/

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Zeeshan lost my vote when he pulled this move (staying on as councilor while running for Lib nomination). I think a lot of others were upset too with what he did as the election results show he only won by a slim margin in my opinion (1181 to 1021)...definitely not a landslide. Also the fact that he supports someone like Trudeau is another reason he lost my vote.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 10:46 am 
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I had the same concern about that avg_Joe and I don't live in his ward. I still do, because based on what happens in the nomination he may be ward 8 councillor for one year or less; and I think there would have to be a by-election (there's no way they'd appoint someone with over three years left on a mandate) leading to more cash spent. Zeeshan pitches it as a matter of timing; if the contest had been called before the municipal election he would have pulled out. I don't think anyone knows really why they're taking so long to call the nomination; I was told by another candidate back in August they were into the final 100 days.

I believe Zeeshan is in it to make a difference; the enthusiasm he has for pretty much everything is obvious. I think it'll come down to him and one other candidate; Zeeshan has high name recognition in the community because of his time on Council. But the other candidate I think has huge credibility within the party, and that's what's going to lead to a close race.

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i love watching people that will never amount to nothing taking pot shots at someone who's making themselves famous.


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I just don’t understand the whole qualification’s as a manager angle. I agree with the argument, but it’s not your strong suit in this riding.

Lisa Raitt is our MP, a cabinet minister, and possibly one of the best ministers in government. On management skills, Zeesh would be totally outclassed by her. Maybe I underestimate him, but that seems unlikely considering she’s often discussed as the next leader of the Conservative party.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 12:09 pm 
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There are rumours going around that Zeeshan circulated a letter in Ward 8 which encouraged residents to not vote if they were unsure about who to vote for since there were so many new names. I say rumours because I haven't seen the letter and I understand it's coming from an unsuccessful candidate. DOn't know if anyone can shed some insight on that. If it is true, then it's disappointing because encouraging people to not vote serves only the incumbent (Zeeshan) and really he should be encouraging people to learn about the candidates and the process.

Zeeshan - I dont mean to throw shade at you but the talk is out there and given this thread, maybe you should address it?


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