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PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 12:15 pm 
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Makes sense though. Why waste a vote if you have no idea who you're voting for? You could be voting in a completely incompetent fool just for the sake of voting. Voting isn't a right meant to just waste, it's meant for you to make an informed decision on shaping the country. Randomly picking someone isn't really accomplishing anything other than maybe giving you a warm fuzzy feeling that you contributed to democracy.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 12:20 pm 
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avg_joe wrote:
Zeeshan lost my vote when he pulled this move (staying on as councilor while running for Lib nomination). I think a lot of others were upset too with what he did as the election results show he only won by a slim margin in my opinion (1181 to 1021)...definitely not a landslide. Also the fact that he supports someone like Trudeau is another reason he lost my vote.


True, considering being an incumbent I too was very surprised on election night to see the very slim win margin. Hard to explain really.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 12:21 pm 
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Sandeep wrote:
Makes sense though. Why waste a vote if you have no idea who you're voting for? You could be voting in a completely incompetent fool just for the sake of voting. Voting isn't a right meant to just waste, it's meant for you to make an informed decision on shaping the country. Randomly picking someone isn't really accomplishing anything other than maybe giving you a warm fuzzy feeling that you contributed to democracy.

Are you suggesting that every voter should pass some kind of competency test before they are allowed to vote? And what would the criteria for such an examination be? Would there be a pass/fail rate?

The right to vote is sacrosanct, with no restrictions to be applied.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 12:25 pm 
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Princess Beata wrote:
i love watching people that will never amount to nothing taking pot shots at someone who's making themselves famous.


It's hard to say Beata. You have no idea who is posting on here or what their accomplishments are. After all, I'm pretty sure you're not a real princess.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 12:39 pm 
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Foreveryoung wrote:
Sandeep wrote:
Makes sense though. Why waste a vote if you have no idea who you're voting for? You could be voting in a completely incompetent fool just for the sake of voting. Voting isn't a right meant to just waste, it's meant for you to make an informed decision on shaping the country. Randomly picking someone isn't really accomplishing anything other than maybe giving you a warm fuzzy feeling that you contributed to democracy.

Are you suggesting that every voter should pass some kind of competency test before they are allowed to vote? And what would the criteria for such an examination be? Would there be a pass/fail rate?

The right to vote is sacrosanct, with no restrictions to be applied.


That's not at all what I wrote, and you know it. Sorry, not in the mood to feed a troll.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 12:58 pm 
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Sandeep wrote:
Makes sense though. Why waste a vote if you have no idea who you're voting for? You could be voting in a completely incompetent fool just for the sake of voting. Voting isn't a right meant to just waste, it's meant for you to make an informed decision on shaping the country. Randomly picking someone isn't really accomplishing anything other than maybe giving you a warm fuzzy feeling that you contributed to democracy.


Or maybe instead of encouraging apathy, you could learn about the candidates and make an informed choice? Or do you have an objection to informed choices?


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MiltonShiv wrote:
Sandeep wrote:
Makes sense though. Why waste a vote if you have no idea who you're voting for? You could be voting in a completely incompetent fool just for the sake of voting. Voting isn't a right meant to just waste, it's meant for you to make an informed decision on shaping the country. Randomly picking someone isn't really accomplishing anything other than maybe giving you a warm fuzzy feeling that you contributed to democracy.


Or maybe instead of encouraging apathy, you could learn about the candidates and make an informed choice? Or do you have an objection to informed choices?


Isn't that obvious? Maybe if I use smaller words:

If you don't know who to vote for, don't vote. If you want to vote, learn about the candidates. That's the best way to shape the country. Step 1: understand what you wnat. Step 2: who'se offering what you want? Step 3: Get in the car Step 4: Drive to election office. Step 5: Vote.

Comprendé?


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Zeeshan Hamid wrote:

It's not a big deal even if I said that (except the "since there are so many new names" part).

Some voters think their ballots are spoiled if they don't pick someone from each race. I've always informed voters that they don't have to vote for every race in the ballot, and that leaving some races blank wont spoil their ballots. If someone has no idea what's gonig on in a race (say the local council race because you've been paying attention to the mayorial and regional races) then it's better to leave the ballot blank than to cast a blind vote randomly (yes it's best to educate yourself). If someone heard me say that then there ya go, I've put it in writing and I stand by it :).

If I were designing ballots I'd have a "Not Sure / None of the Above" option as well.

Zeeshan Hamid


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 2:51 pm 
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 2:53 pm 
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Zeeshan Hamid wrote:
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ps. Unlike other "unsuccessful candidate(s)", whoever they might be, I do make myself publicly available and use my real name (here, twitter, Facebook) to publicly answer questions even when they're uncomfortable or when I know my responses wouldn't be taken well.


And you don't make up fake Facebook profiles on your Facebook page complimenting you on how AWESOME you are!


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 2:55 pm 
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Foreveryoung wrote:
The right to vote is sacrosanct, with no restrictions to be applied.


It’s also responsible for the complete farce that is everything that is government.

When the fathers of democracy were putting America together, even they saw that it had to be protected from stupid people. They required you own property to vote. If you need to own something to care about it.


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Sandeep wrote:

That's not at all what I wrote, and you know it. Sorry, not in the mood to feed a troll.

Just a cheap shot to call someone who disagrees with you a troll. You are an adult; act accordingly. :roll:


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Honest & Politician....now there's an oxymoron! ;)


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 3:27 pm 
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Zeeshan Hamid wrote:
Nope, no truth to it. Perhaps you can ask the said unsuccessful candidate to find proof? Surely, if I did such a thing then someone must have received it, right?


That's what I thought. Thanks for saying it though.

Zeeshan Hamid wrote:
It's not a big deal even if I said that (except the "since there are so many new names" part).

Some voters think their ballots are spoiled if they don't pick someone from each race. I've always informed voters that they don't have to vote for every race in the ballot, and that leaving some races blank wont spoil their ballots. If someone has no idea what's gonig on in a race (say the local council race because you've been paying attention to the mayorial and regional races) then it's better to leave the ballot blank than to cast a blind vote randomly (yes it's best to educate yourself). If someone heard me say that then there ya go, I've put it in writing and I stand by it :).

If I were designing ballots I'd have a "Not Sure / None of the Above" option as well.

Zeeshan Hamid
ps. Unlike other "unsuccessful candidate(s)", whoever they might be, I do make myself publicly available and use my real name (here, twitter, Facebook) to publicly answer questions even when they're uncomfortable or when I know my responses wouldn't be taken well.


Great answer except for the bolded part. I figure youre referring to this piece: encouraged residents to not vote if they were unsure about who to vote for since there were so many new names. I dont think as a politician you should ever encourage people not to vote. Now you didn't do it, but if you did, it would in fact be a big deal.


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prickly_pete wrote:
Funny that he could provide YOUR name in a baseless rumour but couldn't say who the "unsuccessful candidate" was.

What a farce.


Abubaqr. That who I heard said it. I didn't name him initially because he didn't say it to me but I know other people have brought up the rumour. I named Zeeshan because the rumour was about him.


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