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This is a horrible situation - I feel so badly for you and your family.

My husband and I have also experienced problems with neighbours when we lived in a townhouse with a shared wall.

In addition to the good suggestion that you collect evidence, which you can then show the police, I would also suggest if you can to get some legal advice. From my experience it was very helpful to talk to a laywer about our situation - that way you know what options you may have available. You may not have to pay that much for some initial advice - only if you follow through. We also notified our neighbours that we had obtained legal advice, which (I think) may have helped in the long run.

Hopefully your other neighbours will also be supportive - try to get them to call police as well. If the police recieve calls from numerous different houses all complaining about one resident, it will be harder for them to ignore.

In the end it may be best to move... but best of luck in the meantime!

If it helps, I have a friend that's about 300 pounds, shaved head, long goatee and looks like an honest-to-god hell's angel with his own hog! I'd be happy to call him to help you out, he's been in more than his fair share of 'scruffles' and never got a scratch

Best thing is to call the police. Chances are they will eventually get charged or mess up and start verbally assaulting the police which will lead to other charges. I have seen this played out before, let them be the ones that move, not you.

Take the high road and lead by example.

Matt

I agree re: the police. Every time that music is too loud, call them up. Record it if you can. It's your right to report the disturbance to your peace, and they have to comply with the law. It may take time but it will eventually be enough of a deterrent to them that they might consider moving instead of you. Personally I'd also take csb up on the offer of the occasional visit from a giant tall scary friend. But that's just me.

hire a prostitute to go over there and seduce the bf... judging by what I've read about him, he wont be able to resist temptation. In order to get the gf out of the house for this, you;ll have to befriend her and take her out for a beer or coffee to talk about all thats gone on. When she gets back, she'll find the boyfriend with the hooker and they'll break up, and you'll live happily ever after

Hi "How many more days now?"
I live on Hepburn (on the stretch that borders Zelinsky Cres.) and after reading your posts, I just had to walk by this house. I think it is the corner lot if I am not mistaken because I see two or three young people out on their porch all the time.
I think that it is wrong for them to drive you away. You should not have to move and lose money on your home in order to escape these guys. I say you talk to the other neighbours around you and have them watching for this kind of behaviour too. That way, other neighbours can complain to them and also call the cops if they see them smoking pot outside. I have talked to many people in this neighbourhood so far and THEY are the black sheep, not you. This neighbourhood is filled with young couples and families and most would not be happy with this kind of carrying on. If enough people complain to them, maybe they will want to leave rather than endure these "parental figures" in their lives. And it sounds like they have the money to do it too.

No, it's still her parents house, they just don't live there.

Maybe they bought it as an investment for their daughter to look after while it (and maybe she) matures.

Find the parents.

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Hey I sympathize! Been there!! You brought back many memories! My first home was a semi back in the very early90s and we too had neighbours from hell! Almost the same thing, neither worked, music blaring all hours, drugs, constant visitors, place a scruffy mess, etc etc (it turns out it was a rental and we were too green to investigate this before buying). We never called Police, just decided it was not worth it to get on their bad side(given the characters we were dealing with), and always just said hello and left it at that. This was good advice from my Dad to keep peace with your neighbours.

Lucky for us they moved out just before we had to sell, and a Pentecostal minister and his family moved in!! What luck, talk about the opposite end of the spectrum, and an ideal neighbour!! The house sold in several weeks!!

The lesson I learned from this experience was never ever buy a semi, if at all possible. Ultimately you really cannot control who is living next to you. But realistically this is not possible for everyone, especially when you are starting out. And most people are lucky, get a good neighbour and dont have to go through what you and I have experienced.

Good luck!!

Hi there,

I don't know what to say other than some people have a lot of nerve. I feel so bad for you and your family and do hope this situation improves... just wondering, aren't there any other neighbours who are complaining? If so, why don't you trying speaking to them as a group...

I really hope this gets better for you,

Stephanie

Hi HMDN (How Many Days Now),

I was curious if you knew what type of sound insulation you had in your semi? Originally I assume you were in a Mattamy home but from your last posting realized you're in a different neighbourhood. Did you purchase your home new? or resale? Is it still under warrenty with the builder?

I'm wondering if your home's insulation between you and your neighbors are the same or different from what's in Mattamy new Semi's/Townhouses currently being built?

With Mattamy I think there are 4 layers of Drywall (i.e. 2 layers, a gap, and then another 2 layers). I spoke to someone who moved into a mattamy townhouse a year back, they mentioned when their neighbour was blasting their stereo system they couldn't hear it, but they could feel/sense the vibration of a subwoofer through the wall, but that was it.

Anyways, sorry I don't have any good advice for your existing neighbours

Have you spoke with their neighbours on the other side?

We are in Mattamy subdivision 14b, on the cress with Energy Saving Demo Homes. It is quiet here. Some people with kids, some not yet.
One or two party went on. Wasn't really loud, but we have to close our windows.
One house was sold for above 370, another is on sale under 370. Those are single car garages houses.
I don't know why it is so quiet. Perhaps because this part of subdivision hasn't got any semis or townhouses.
Mostly big, not as huge as others down south, but two cars garages big houses.
Before moving here we were at non-Mattamy only townhouses street. Just few hundreds meters away from this place we are now. We’ve got three young couples in front of us, living side-by-side. Lots of noise in the night through all of the summer. Some times it was loud, but most of the time just noisy front porch bla-bla-bla from 11pm to 4am. They didn’t show any disrespect, but were just too young to realise they have to take care about another people too.

kf095,

it's a different demographic group. Our street has townhouses. For the most part, we restrict our partying or 'late nite marathon talking sessions' until the weekends, but sometimes it happens during the week, and we try not to be too loud. We all have busy lives, but we want to spend time with our neighbours because we like them.

I'm not excusing the situation that HMDN is going through, nor am I saying that someone should expect it from people who buy semis. Everyone should be respectful of their neighbours.

But it's true, the streets with the larger homes are more quiet...at least in 14a and 14b.

keep your daily log of activities going and don't forget to take pictures and video whenever possible.
Don't be scared by the family full of lawyers bs. Most time the "lawyer" in the family will tell the relative they're too busy to do anything anyways, if they even exist.

The bylaw guys in town can be nasty so keep sending them as much info as possible. Eventually they'll do something and bring them up on charges.
Don't forget to talk to neighbours as well. If you can get a small petition going or multipl witnesses in the area, you'll stand a better chance of getting something done.

Your ultimate goal should be to get them to move - not you.

Hope this helps and best of luck,

Cliff

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Buy a universal remote......keep shutting tv off and changing their channels.....treehouse early in the morning would probably drive them crazy.....?