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[nakerville83]

Does anyone know who and when is developing the land southwest of Savoline and Dymott?

[Cat & Matt]

[nakerville83]

What happens when one backs onto this land? Does mattamy or milton put up a fence until the developer is ready to develop? And will this be a big nuisance when they do begin to develop ie.damage/mess?

[colin b.]

Hi Nakerville 83 and other posters

Yes the land south of the Mattamy Escarpment lands south of Dymott and Savoline is owned by the Conservatory Group operating as Milton Main St. Homes known as area 10 on the attached map. This is a 50 acre property with the builder having a site alteration permit to prepare the site similar to Mattamy' Willmott subdivision on the east side of Bronte south of the Hospital. (see attached draft plan map)

http://www.milton.ca/plandev/Phase_2_Status_Draft_Plans.pdf

Planning staff are expecting the initial application to be presented later this spring to council for a future technical report and water and watewater allocation. All property owners within 120 metres or 400 feet of the application will be notified of the meeting as required under the Provincial Planning Act where you can register with staff to be informed of all future meetings and receive the detailed plans of the application.

Yes builders are required to fence the new construction area similar to other new construction areas you can see around town.

Will be posting more information on this application when it comes available.

Colin Best
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Milton Administration & Planning Committee
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[LEAF]

Does this mean that the "public square" on the south side of Nakerville will not be completed until after the development by Conservatory group has completed?
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[colin b.]

Hi leaf
Will check with staff and get back to you as soon as possible.
If it is all within the Mattamy lands it should be done along with the rest of your area as Council approved the rezoning for the area for construction.

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[spencer]

under the same survey there is a company call macprince. what are they planning on developing? i cannot find any information on them online.

[sunflower101]

Our house on mockridge terrace will be backing onto the "future residential by others" as well. Should there be any gap between the backyards of two houses of the two builders? What's the usual scenerio??
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[colin b.]

Hi Spencer and Sunflower101

The Macprince lands (area 8 on the draft plan status map) is owned by the Manaman group which also owns the new retail area at the north-west corner of Louis St. Laurent Blvd. and Bronte St. S. (former 1st Line) the planning committee has not seen an application yet from the group but you should be seeing an application later this year possibly for 2011-12 construction based on the improving real estate market and water/wasterwater allocations.

The circulation of the planning application goes to all landowners within 120 metres or 400 feet of the property which is required under the provincial planning act will inform everyone where the development will be Sunflower101. Where the boundary houses are located will depend on the siteplan which is worked out by the applicants, staff, other agencies such as the conservation authority and public between the initial application and the technical report which can take anywhere from 3 to 12 months depending on the complexity and scale of the application. Some areas such as the Mattamy Vista and Fieldgate/Greenpark/Arista homes north of Derry road can be on the same street or back to back where other developments could be seperated by a walkway or park depending on the location and servicing requirements for example a gas line, woodlot or stormwater pond.

I will be posting the initial application on the villager as soon as it is posted on the Town web sitel. Check www.milton.ca under upcoming reports to see when the initial application could be coming or call 905-878-7252 and ask for the planning department for more information.

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[colin b.]

Hi Nakerville83 and other posters

Came across the new Halton District School Board new boundary maps for 2010-2011 which has the preliminary drawings for the streets south of Schreyer and Dymott. Check out the bottom left hand corner of the map and see the streets that are not named yet.

http://www.hdsb.ca/AboutUs/Planning/Boundary%20Maps%202/ENG_Milton_Elementary.pdf

Milton council has not seen these applications yet but should be seeing an initial application soon as the Conservatory Group has already prepared the site for servicing which is usually done about a year before the houses are built.


Colin Best
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Milton/Halton
Vice-Chair Milton Administration & Planning Committee.
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[Ron&Jen]

who is building in the area that is south of louis st. laurent and east of thompson?

when might that be available?

[colin b.]

Hi Ron & Jen

I understand from staff that these lands south of Louis St. Laurent Blvd. between Thompson and James Snow parkway are owned by a mix of builders such as Mattamy and Sundial Homes.

This area is still going through the Secondary Plan process which will take another year, then servicing and financial agreements, subdivision and zoning/site plan approvals each of which takes about a year.

It will probably take about 3-5 years before there is any construction in this area depending on the economy and real estate market. The Sherwood Survey on the west side of town is only 40% completed now and there is still some significant areas in the first Bristol survey on the east side of town to be built as well as the intensification areas.

See attached links and maps.

http://www.milton.ca/plandev/Phase_1_Status_Draft_Plans.pdf

The white areas within the survey have not even started the application process yet for draft plans which take about 2-3 years to complete depending on servicing and financing agreements. The Town secondary plans require for 75% of one survey to be completed before the next survey can begin the planning process for approvals.

http://www.milton.ca/plandev/Phase_2_Status_Draft_Plans.pdf

This is the overall map for the existing Official plan which should take till the year 2031 to fill in with an estimated population of about 170,000 people according to planning staff including the 5600 units or 14,000 people before the Sustainable Halton area south of Britannia and east of James Snow Parkway starts after 2021.

http://www.milton.ca/plandev/Phasing.pdf

The Town population at the end of 2009 is estimated to be 85,000 people according to planning staff with about 5600 people moving into Milton in 2009.

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[samsvoc]

Once the population of Milton reaches 100,000, I believe it can call itself the City of Milton.
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[colin b.]

Hi Samsvoc

Actually that is an old idea that disappeared long ago.
There is no financial benefit or funding difference to rename the Town to a City. Actually it would cost the Town tens of thousands of dollars to change all the signage, stationary, website, facilities etc. which there is not need to, as there is five larger towns in Ontario that also have no interest in changing their title either.

1. Town of Markham 261,000 people
2. Town of Oakville 165,000
3. Town of Richmond Hill 162,000
4. Town of Whitby 111,000
5. Town of Ajax 90,000

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_100_largest_municipalities_in_Canada_by_population

Even with the projected Sustainable Halton population for Milton in 2031 of an estimated 238,000 people Milton will be still smaller than the Town of Markham is now. At the present 85,000 population Milton is the 57th largest municipality in Canada.

I would encourage everyone to participate in the public meetings, workshops and election campaign to help map Milton's future, whatever title you want to call it.

Colin Best
Local & regional councillor
Town of Milton/Region of Halton
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