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Why the F*CK do we have to pick up the tab? AND the property values are going to tank in HVE!!!

There should be public consultations due to possible noise and vibrations from the wind turbines for sure... if it doesn't happen residents nearby should protest!

Regardless, why is it being put there? There's home close by, like really close. Stupid idea to put them there and i'm all for green energy.

Bring back the coal plants! Death to alternative energies!!!!!

I just read the attachment! Is the town staff full of dumb-asses!! This is not how you do business by taking 100% of the risk and 15% of the reward!!!

Most of the old time Milton staff are probably high school drop-outs and the rest are Ryerson grads I bet!!!

Last time I checked the list of Town employees there wasn't even one brown person! Talk about representing the Town!

people should really read up on those, a lot of people get ill from the constant noise, not to mention all the birds it will kill
I know they sound great, but in reality they are not that great
A better idea was to put solar panels on school rooftops, as they are all flat and sucking up the sun all day,every day

First off, read the report again. They want to install VERTICAL axis wind turbines in the parking lot. These are VERY different from the 3 bladed big horizontal axis turbines that cause the noise, sound, and bird strike problems. They are designed for urban use, and can look very cool!

I read the report before this was posted and was glad to see the town being pro-active in terms of reducing energy use. They are also looking at geothermal energy to heat the addition, primarily the pool.

In so far as the risk financially, that's another story though it's not uncommon for government to finance risk in new technologies in order to get them out there. I personally don't have a problem with my tax dollars going to support new technologies, and showcasing them in this manner. Given that the town is trying to attract green businesses to the Derry Green Business Park and facilitate green technology incubators in the Education Village which need industry partners this is part of how you go about attracting those kinds of businesses. No risk, no reward. It could mean the difference between R&D in emerging technology coming here instead of, say, China.

^ True, if you look at the picture in the attachment, it just looks like a fancy light post but I think its the NIBMY attitude we are seeing; which is completely normal.

As far your "no risk, no reward" statement goes, it's also true but why are we going to take 100% of the risk and 15% of the reward?

I'll find out about the noise, and also a few questions about financials (i.e. estimated rate of returns if known).

If needed I'll request to give a "delegation" speech on monday asking these questions. But what might happen, is I submit a delegation speech today, which means all councillors see the questions in advance. Then on monday before I get to the podium, a councillor will ask that question on their own (because they know that residents are concerned) and the question/answer may occur before it's my turn to speak. But either way, we'll get some answers.

But also remember this is a MOU (Memorandum of Understanding) that council is going to be asked to authorize. MOU's don't preclude the final approval or disapproval. It's just the starting point for further discussions on terms and conditions. Noise should definitely be a consideration. I'd also like to hear a little more about financials behind it. But if Milton Hydro is paying for it, my initial assumption is they wouldn't enter an agreement they didn't foresee would be financially beneficial (or at minimum break even).

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Milton Hydro pays 100% of the capital costs.

Town of Milton gets 15% of the reward

Who would you like to pay the cost? Milton Hydro or the Town?

Also realize the town owns Milton Hydro.

In this situation, Milton Hydro takes the risk. Milton Hydro's financial books are separate from the towns. But the town does own Milton Hydro.

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I think it is a great idea. I have been for this for quite some time, but the TOM has a bylaw against wind turbines in residential areas. This would be ground breaking.

I was interested in this one...

http://www.escience.ca/resource-centre/ ... d-turbines

Tim

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Maybe I'm missing something but this seems pretty reasonable as a pilot project. And the style of turbine being used seems very appropriate for location, and environmental impact: these are "bird-safe", generate energy in very low winds, and very low noise (some make < 10db in 50mph winds).

The way we think about energy is changing in Canada, and its good to see Milton testing the waters rather than playing catch in 10years

I think the point Kiddan was making is that the manufacturer of the wind turbines approached the town and Milton Hydro for a pilot project, and as such they should be taking on some/most of the cost of the project. Perhaps this was addressed with the pricing and the manufacturer has reduced the cost of the turbines to a point where there is minimal impact to Milton hydro.

As for the 15% revenue that the town would receive, it looks like its from the advertising revenue from banners which would hang on the vertical turbines and not from any energy that may be generated. Wouldn't it just be cheaper for Milton to put up a couple of flag poles on some town owned piece of land and hang some banners from them?

I did a quick bit of research and it does look like a vertical turbine will put out less noise than a horizontal model, but I'd still be interested in finding out what sort of noise these particular units will be putting out.

I am sorry Rick but your reasoning didn't make sense. Just because they keep their books separate doesn't mean a thing. At the end of the day it is Town's $$$ = OUR $$$!

Before everyone gets bent out of shape at the cost lets find out what it is, and if the company is "selling" the turbines essentially at cost etc. This is a pilot that isnt going to be very expensive, based on the concept pictures

I think its unfair to complain about the noise considering no one here knows how loud vertical turbines are. It sucks that the town is footing the bill, but this is usually the case when new technology is being tested/piloted out.

I'm all for it!