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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 9:59 am 
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Does anyone have a handheld engine scan tool or know of a cheap place to get it scanned? I have the check engine light on for the last 1 year :). The light came on a few years ago as well and took it to the dealership and it was the charcoal canister that had to get replaced $$$. It was good for a couple of years and then the light came on again. It’s a 99 Toyota Corolla and I don’t want to take it to the dealership as they will make a bill worth more than the car this time.

Also, Is there a wreckyard in town as I am looking for relay as well? Dealership wants $90 for a “relay”…


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 10:29 am 
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I am pretty sure I have one in my garage ... I'll get back to you tonight when I get home if no one else has one.


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Thanks, Andrew. Is this what you are talking about? Also, does anyone know when did OBD II was adopted in Canada? I will call the stealership but I doubt they will give me a straight anwser :)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/OBD2-CAN ... 2347wt_939


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 11:33 am 
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^ Merci Beaucoup!


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petah wrote:
I am pretty sure I have one in my garage ... I'll get back to you tonight when I get home if no one else has one.


Thanks Petah!


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That looks neat! I will have to get one too!
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Called Partsource and it is free to get it scanned!!! And Stealership wanted $98+tax!!! I guess I have my Friday (day-off) planned now. Pick up timmies at 6:00 am and get in the line to pick up iphone 4 and then head over to Partsource in Sauga :).


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R&N wrote:
Keep in mind that it will likely be a generic scan that returns only an error code #. Some of these are standardized with OBD-II and readily translated to words or a specific sensor but others are not. If it is a non-standard code, then you'll want to serach for it with google (or find a toyota car club forum) to decode what it means. My random guess is an oxygen sensor ;)


Yes...just a general code. You still need to figure out which sensor and what how to fix it. For 99% of the people who have this tool, it is totally useless for them because they don't know what to do after they get the code. You can even reset the light on the gauges, but it may come back on.

Go see Paul @ True Tech Auto on Steeles, straight across from Bomar. That guy will tell you whats wrong in about 5 minutes.

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marathonman wrote:
Go see Paul @ True Tech Auto on Steeles, straight across from Bomar. That guy will tell you whats wrong in about 5 minutes.


Yes, Paul is my last resort but I want to do some investigative work myself first...:)


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R&N wrote:
marathonman wrote:
Yes...just a general code. You still need to figure out which sensor and what how to fix it.


It's not usually that complicated. As I wrote, a quick google search usually returns a description of the problem and finding a forum thread detailing how to fix it is usually only a few clicks away.

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For 99% of the people who have this tool, it is totally useless for them because they don't know what to do after they get the code.


Personally, I like to think that >1% of the people who buys a scan-tool goes on to use it and repair the car themselves. At the very least, they are likely to have a better grasp of what is wrong when talking to their mechanic and are less likely to be deceived.

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Go see Paul @ True Tech Auto on Steeles, straight across from Bomar. That guy will tell you whats wrong in about 5 minutes.


I'm sure your friend is a fine mechanic but if you can repair something yourself, then you don't need to pay for the shop time ;)


I always try to fix or repair things myself. I completely agree with you that it can save you a lot of money (or not, if you break it). My point was that the majority of people will have absolutely no idea what the codes mean or the slightest idea of fixing it. Your link illustrates my point:

P1125 Throttle Control Motor Circuit.

How many people know what this is, (even if they searched the internet for hours) and would be able to fix their own car?

(I change the percentage to 99.9 would have no clue).

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^ At least one can save up to $98+tax if they find the code themselves ;) and being educated goes a long way...

I plan to find out the code, spend few hours on the net to see what the code means, find out what part I need and typically how long it takes to replace it. Then go buy it and take it to my mechanic and have it replaced rather than blindly going in and getting charged "diagnostic" fees and more than required labour $...


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marathonman wrote:
P1125 Throttle Control Motor Circuit.
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By using "I'm feeling lucky" I got a pretty detailed pdf with diagrams and lots of information.
Maybe I got lucky :D

Anyway, I once used Paul, great guy. He told me what it was and the part was still covered under an extended warranty and off I went to Toyota. He also gave me the code which I googled and found a lot of people having similar issues.

Google is your friend :lol:


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Buy...Scan...Return :wink:

http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/browse/4/Auto/AutoTools/AutoCodeReaders/PRD~0251099P/OBD%252BCar%252BReader/CROSSSELL~0251030%20OBD%2BII%2BCode%2BReader.jsp?locale=en


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R&N wrote:
marathonman wrote:
P1125 Throttle Control Motor Circuit.

How many people know what this is, (even if they searched the internet for hours) and would be able to fix their own car?

(I change the percentage to 99.9 would have no clue).


Yawn.

I'd expect a fault with the throttle control system would be associated with acceleration symptoms that go beyond a lit check engine light. If not, I'd start by clearing the code and seeing if it returns. FYI, that's not a great example given the OP stated he had a 99 Toyota Corolla. In his car, such a code is unlikely given the throttle mechanisms consist simply of a throttle body, cable and pedal. FYI, unlike some newer Toyotas where the pedal signal is digitized and the throttle body is indeed driven by a motor, a 99 Corolla uses a cable to manually control the throttle. Quite simple really. As for where to start when diagnosing a problem, take a look over at toyotanation.com.

I think it is fasinating that so many people here think that DIY work (whether it be their house, car or back yard landscaping) is really that difficult. Your simply spreading FUD in your posts above. The OP wanted to find out the engine code and give it a go himself and all you have to offer is that he should pay your friend the mechanic... that's not much of a help in my opinion.

I learned to fix things by watcing/helping my father and plan on giving my kids, nieces and nephews the same opportunity. I began repairing small engines (and eventually cars) by going to the library and borrowing Haynes manuals and following the instructions as a young teen. Today, all you really need is a free login to a good chat room or web forum. Sure, it takes some time, patience and a few tools but it's both rewarding and cost effective. If you'd rather not bother with it yourself, that's fine. But don't go around trying to convince everyone else that it's soooooo complicated. /rant


I agree 100%.
Find out what the code is first and then decide how to fix it.
There is no good reason not to educate yourself before any trip to the mechanic, or anything else for that matter.

I have a good OBD reader that translates most codes for you.
It gives you the code, then the problem. PM me and you can pass by anytime. I will be happy to plug it in for you.

It could be something as dumb as a bad gas cap or most commonly, the o2 sensor which is a 15 minute job to change.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 8:42 pm 
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Halton Transmission on Ontario Street will do it for free. Take it by, they will tell you what is wrong with no questions asked...do your background work, and then I guess hopefully if you need work, you would take it back to them.

Adam Kulla is there...good guy. Please tell him I referred you.

Jessica :)


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