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 Post subject: 08 CRV vs Nissan Rogue
PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 7:56 am 
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Which one is better car, I'm talking about handling,comfort and fuel consumption since both of them are fall into same price category. I'm shopping for new car and was thinking these two cars (4 Wheel Drive)?
Maybe for insurance Nissan is cheaper....


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A friend of mine just got the 08 Honda CRV. It is an nice vehicle.
I think he is getting about 400km to a $50 tank of fuel, which is pretty average for CUV's.
When i drove the CRV it felt like driving a car but higher up off the ground.
I don't know what a base line CRV feels like inside, but he got the upgraded interior and it was comfortable.

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Honda CRV hands-down. I've owned and serviced Nissans since I was a late-teen, and while they are very good, they fall short of Toyota and Honda quality-wise, especially in recent years. Honda also holds their value better, so if you sell in a few years, you get better ROI. The Rogue rides on the same frame as the Nissan Sentra.

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I was thinking of buying the Nissan Rogue too -but saw one yesterday & I dunno - think I like the CRV better-- plus currently drive a honda and love it soo...................... :) apparently the Rogue is best on gas in its class of vehichles...

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 Post subject: 08 CRV vs Nissan Rogue
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Hope this helps

http://driving.canada.com/research/comp ... 1082300301


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wow - you can be in a S AWD Rogue for the same price as a Honda CRV base.


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Greg88 wrote:
wow - you can be in an S AWD Rogue for the same price as a Honda CRV base.


That's true, though it tends to balance itself out after about 3 years, when the Nissans tend to plummet in value and the Honda still holds its value for a better re-sale price.

The Subarau Forester is a very capable performer, but try not to buy first-year re-designed models. There are usually many teething problems and service bulletins that creep up, and oftentimes, the manufacturers will fix them up better for the following year's models.

The Hyundai Santa Fe is pretty solid too. Cheaper to buy, and the value plummets like Nissans, but it's likely to be decent for the first 4-5 years.

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I just did a blackbook on a 2004 Camry, Accord and Altima. Top end models. I considered 65,000km and fully optioned. They were all within $600 of each other. None of them plunged in value more than the others.


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 Post subject: 08 CRV vs Nissan Rogue
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My guess Rogue will keep its value like the CRV's and RAV's based on Nissan Murano's popularity. Nissan now perfected their 3.5 and 2.5 engines. So the reliability should be good. I think Rogue will be a good buy. I drive a Murano and have no complaints and I am sure it's the same with most of other drivers. If you look at the comparison you get more horsepower for much better fuel economy with the Rogue


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Harry wrote:
My guess Rogue will keep its value like the CRV's and RAV's based on Nissan Murano's popularity. Nissan now perfected their 3.5 and 2.5 engines. So the reliability should be good. I think Rogue will be a good buy. I drive a Murano and have no complaints and I am sure it's the same with most of other drivers. If you look at the comparison you get more horsepower for much better fuel economy with the Rogue


Some good points. I too own a Nissan product that has the same 3.5L VQ35DE motor you have. Be sure to check your engine oil level every week, as these motors like to burn oil.

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HaPPysTerLinG wrote:
If you can wait it out till the end of Jan beginning of Feb. I would strongly consider the 2009 Subaru Forester. If you are looking for solid performance (the best AWD, all-time) and decent fuel economy 45L should get you about 500 Km easy. They have redesigned the Forester from the 08 model. Google Spy pics for 2009 Subaru Forester. It may not be the trendiest looking SUV Crossover, it is worth every penny and will outperform most.


I wholeheartedly agree with this statement. Subaru's AWD system should be loads better than both the system in the Rogue and CR-V.

Here's a good video comparing different systems:
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid= ... &plindex=0
Though the video was produced by Subaru, you can see the differences in how different systems work. :)

<--- longtime Subaru fan.

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I heard Subaru's car is very expensive to maintained.


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carisma wrote:
I heard Subaru's car is very expensive to maintained.


It can be. Its motor harnesses an unconvential design called a horizontally-opposed engine, or a "boxer" engine, which is the same design found in Porsches. A routine tune-up can be difficult because to get to the spark plugs and other components, you have to dig deep, which is more labour. That said, Subaru owners are a VERY loyal bunch, these cars are a joy to drive and handles amazing, and I may have some refute me after this post, but my overall opinion is that their reliability is above-average, and while some parts are hard to find and have to be imported from Gunma, Japan (where they are built), if you decide to lease for 3-5 years, you might be okay. If you plan to buy to own, I do not recommend Subaru based on limited (and expensive) dealer servicing that is centred mostly in urban areas, and parts costs if you get a lemon. And like I said earlier above, it's always a gamble to buy a car that's newly re-designed in its first year; too many potential teething problems, and a recall or two.

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AlphaMale wrote:

It can be. Its motor harnesses an unconvential design called a horizontally-opposed engine, or a "boxer" engine, which is the same design found in Porsches. A routine tune-up can be difficult because to get to the spark plugs and other components, you have to dig deep, which is more labour.


While changing spark plugs is a bit harder to do in boxer engines, most of the routine maintenance is just as easy as in other cars.

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That said, Subaru owners are a VERY loyal bunch, these cars are a joy to drive and handles amazing, and I may have some refute me after this post, but my overall opinion is that their reliability is above-average, and while some parts are hard to find and have to be imported from Gunma, Japan (where they are built), if you decide to lease for 3-5 years, you might be okay.


Can't refute that reliability is above average. :) Maybe Subaru doesn't get quite as much praise as Toyota, Honda, and Nissan, but you'll find many Subarus on the road with well over 300k km and still running fine.

Some Subarus are built in Lafayette, Indiana. Those being the Outback, Legacy, and Tribeca. For the OP, the Forester is built in Japan, but parts are not hard to find anymore. I'd say that about 10 years ago, things were a bit harder, but Subaru has grown (though it's still very small compared to other car manufacturers) and I've never had to wait for parts to be flown in from Japan.

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If you plan to buy to own, I do not recommend Subaru based on limited (and expensive) dealer servicing that is centred mostly in urban areas, and parts costs if you get a lemon.


The closest dealers from Milton are Subaru of Mississauga and Budds Subaru in Oakville. There's also a great independent garage in Guelph. That said, I too wish there was a good dealer nearby. When we move to HVE, I'll probably start taking the car to either Guelph or Oakville.

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And like I said earlier above, it's always a gamble to buy a car that's newly re-designed in its first year; too many potential teething problems, and a recall or two.


Agreed. :)

Again, take what I've said with a grain of salt, as I'm one of those loyal Subaru fans. :D

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The main advantage of the CRV is that you can move from the fron seat to the rear seat from within the vehicle, pretty much like in a minivan. Very handy when with kids.


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